Jul 22, 2026 SPECIAL MEETING/PUBLIC WORK SESSION

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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE. WEDNESDAY, JULY 22ND, 2026 SPECIAL MEETING PUBLIC WORKS SESSION OF THE PORTSMOUTH CITY SCHOOL BOARD. THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER AS WE PLEASE STAND. STAND NOW FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE. THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. MAY BE SEATED. THE MISSION STATEMENT, OF COURSE, IS PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISIONS TO ENGAGE ALL STUDENTS IN LEARNING THAT WILL FOSTER ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND RESPONSIBLE CITIZENSHIP. AGENDA ITEM 2.5 IS OUR ROLL CALL. MISS MCSWAIN. PRESENT. MISS FUTRELL. HERE. DOCTOR WALKER. HERE. MISS SESSOMS, PRESENT. MISS ATKINSON. HERE, MISS SHUMATE, HERE, MISS BOONE. HERE. DOCTOR COTTON, PRESENT. AND DOCTOR TILLER WAS PRESENT AS WELL. AGENDA ITEM 2.6 IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA FOR JULY 22ND, 2026. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND.

MOTION BY DOCTOR WALKER AND SECOND BY MISS SESSOMS. IS THAT CORRECT? SURE. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING ROLL CALL, MISS MCSWAIN? YES, MISS. YES. DOCTOR. WALKER. YES, MISS. YES.

MISS. ATKINSON. YES, MISS. SHUMATE. YES. MISS. BOONE. YES, DOCTOR. COTTON. YES. AND I'M A YES. AS WELL AS UNANIMOUS. AGENDA ITEM 3.1 IS DISCUSSION. CONSIDERATION OF THE FISCAL

[3.1 (Discussion) Consideration of FY 2026-2027 Revised Operating Budget]

SCHOOL SECURITY WAS ABOUT 250. AUXILIARY SERVICE WAS WERE ABOUT 394. SCHOOL LEADERSHIP 393. ROUGHLY THOUSAND CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION STAFF IN ABOUT 1.4 CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION PROGRAMING 582 AND THEN ONGOING DIVISION COSTS ABOUT 1.86, FOR A TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF NEW INITIATIVES OF ABOUT $14.6 MILLION. SO WHAT ARE THE CHANGES FOR THE 2627 BUDGET? WELL, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET PROPOSAL BY THE GOVERNOR AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THEY HAD LOOKED AT IT. IT HAD A 2% RAISE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. AND I ALWAYS CAVEAT THIS ALL SOQ FUNDED EMPLOYEES, NOT EVERYBODY. THE STATE ONLY FUNDS SOQ POSITIONS

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WE GOT THE FINAL STATE BUDGET NUMBERS, FEDERAL AND OTHER FUNDS, FEDERAL FUNDS, $375,000.

OTHER FUNDS ABOUT 2.5. THE STATE FUNDS ARE WHERE WE HAD THE BIGGEST CHANGE. SALES TAX WAS ABOUT 20.2. LOCAL, EXCUSE ME, AND STATE FUNDS WENT UP TO 127.9. THAT ROUGHLY IS ABOUT $148.23 MILLION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 3.7 MILLION FROM WHAT WE HAD BACK IN OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET. SO THE STATE GAVE US AN ADDITIONAL 3.7. OBVIOUSLY, MOST OF THAT WAS THE RAISE. THEY GAVE US AN ADDITIONAL 1.6 FOR THE RAISE, BUT THE OTHER MONEY CAME IN.

BASICALLY, THAT CAME IN SOME SPECIAL FUNDS AND SMALL OTHER PLACES LIKE AT RISK, AND THEN OUR LOCAL FUNDS AND OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET. WE HAD IT AT STATUS QUO, WHICH WAS ABOUT $82 MILLION. THIS CITY PASSED 7 MILLION. IN ADDITION, THAT'S THIS NUMBER, 89 MILLION NINE, 11, 638. SO WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT, PUT IT IN THE SMORGASBORG, THE TOTAL REVENUE IS $241,074,254. SO THAT IS OUR REVENUE ESTIMATE. WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH CURRENTLY. SO WHEN WE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE THIS BUDGET TO GET ANOTHER 2% IN ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAD THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN A TOTAL, WE HAD TO CUT THESE THINGS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GET BACK TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN GIVE A RAISE OF THAT MAGNITUDE FROM THE STATE AND DO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE HAD TO CUT THINGS. I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE THERE ON THE SLIDE, BUT IT'S ALL OVER THE SCHOOL DIVISION. IT AFFECTS INSTRUCTION, IT AFFECTS SECURITY, IT AFFECTS OPERATIONS, IT AFFECTS TRANSPORTATION. IT AFFECTS TECHNOLOGY. ALL ACROSS THE SCHOOL DIVISION WE'VE HAD, WE HAD TO MAKE CUTS ON THOSE PROPOSALS THAT WE HAD EARLIER FOR THIS BUDGET. AND WITH THAT, WE'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IN HOW WE WERE MANAGING INTERNALLY, BECAUSE TO SOME OF THESE THINGS WE STILL HAD TO DO.

SO WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO TO ACCOMPLISH ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THESE THINGS, WHETHER IT BE STAFFING CHANGES OR LOOKING AT POSITIONS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. DOCTOR BRACY COULD PROBABLY ENUMERATE ALL OF THEM IN FIVE SECONDS, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CUTS. THEY'RE PAINFUL. WE TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM INSTRUCTION AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE BUDGETS THAT ARE NOT UNLIMITED. SO WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL? SO OBVIOUSLY WE SAID WE HAVE A 4% RAISE IN THE STEP INCREASE. THAT ESTIMATED COST IS $12,443,035. PACE STAFFING AND INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS IS ABOUT $700,000. WE PUT IN THE TO PAY SCHOOL SECURITY OFFICERS, WHICH IS ABOUT $120,000 A BUILDING SERVICES STAFF MEMBERS. FOR OUR WAREHOUSE CREW, WE HAD.

WE PUT THOSE BACK IN FOR ABOUT $202,000. AND THEN WITH THE UPDATES TO UTILITIES FOR PACE, WE HAD ALREADY PUT ABOUT A HALF A MILLION IN OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INDICATION THAT THE UTILITIES WILL BE A LITTLE HIGHER FOR PACE, AS WELL AS ACROSS THE DISTRICT WITH SOME OF THE THINGS DOMINION ARE DOING, ARE DOING SO TO BE SAFE RATHER THAN SORRY. WE PUT IN ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION FOR UTILITIES TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T GO INTO THE RED ON THOSE LINES. AS WE BRING UP A NEW BUILDING AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH

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SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO REDUCE. SO STARBASE THE PROGRAM STARBASE IS, IS A REDUCTION FOR ABOUT $1,050,000. COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS, WE WOULD GIVE THEM A CONTRIBUTION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, STARTING WITH FEDERAL FUNDS. WE TRIED TO CONTINUE IT WITH LOCAL FUNDS LAST YEAR, $200,000. AND THEN THE MINDFULNESS PROGRAM, WHICH WAS A PROGRAM THAT WORKED IN A COUPLE OF OUR SCHOOLS FOR ABOUT 29,000. THE ESTIMATED REDUCTIONS TO THOSE EXPENDITURES IS 1 MILLION 279, 279,000. YES, SIR. TAYLOR. OH, NO, I'M SORRY, I WAS POINTING MAKING NOTES. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. SO THESE ARE REDUCTIONS. WHEN YOU ADD THAT ALL UP AND PUT IT IN YOUR GUMBO POT. OUR TOTAL BASE BUDGET WAS 234 TEN 703. OUR PROPOSED EXPENDITURES, NEW EXPENDITURES WERE 14 MILLION FOUR, 65 AND $35. AND THEN THE REDUCTIONS I JUST TALKED ABOUT WERE 1 MILLION 279 FOR GRAND TOTAL OF EXPENDITURES, 243,000,005 $96, $738. SO YOU'RE GOING TO ASK, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? TOTALLY. SO TO RECAP, OUR REVENUES WERE.

241074254 OUR EXPENDITURES. 243596738 SO WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING. AS I TALKED, WE SHARED WITH THE CITY THAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AROUND $2.5 MILLION. IT IS 2,000,005, 22, 484. THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD BE REQUESTING FROM THE CITY TO PROVIDE TO MAKE THIS BUDGET BALANCED. AND WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THIS PIECE. LET'S FALL AHEAD. YES, SIR. AND THAT IS OUR FUNDING REQUEST.

AFTER YOU MADE CUTS. SO. YES, SIR. STARBASE. NO, THAT'S STILL AN ADDITIONAL THAT'S AFTER THE CUTS. YES, SIR. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR FOR THE RAISES. TO GO FROM 2% TO 4%. YOU SAID WAS 2.5 MILLION, RIGHT? NO, SIR. NO IT WAS IT WAS. HOLD ON. I'LL TELL YOU IN A MINUTE. IT WAS ABOUT 3.4 MILLION. SO. SO WHEN THE STATE WHEN THE STATE MOVED IT TO 4%, WE HAD TO COME UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL 3.4. WE HAD TO COME UP WITH 3.4. THEY GAVE US AN ADDITIONAL 1.5. SO ROUGHLY ABOUT $1.92 MILLION IS COSTING US FOR THE RAISES OVER WHAT THE STATE HAS GIVEN US FOR THIS INCREASE. THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY. WHEN IT COMES AT THE 11TH HOUR, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAN. YOU SEE IT AND YOU'RE LIKE, AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY DIDN'T FUND IT ALL. SO THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND FIGURE OUT, WELL, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? OBVIOUSLY, COMPENSATION IS THE NUMBER ONE THING IN SCHOOL DIVISIONS. YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD PEOPLE. YOU CAN'T OPERATE. SO AND JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M SORRY. SURE. I SAW THE THREE THINGS THAT YOU. THREE ITEMS, PROGRAM ITEMS THAT YOU PLACE. WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. WHAT WERE THOSE? THE ONLY ITEMS YOU ALL LOOKED AT OR WERE THERE MORE ITEMS YOU LOOKED AT? AND THERE WERE OTHERS. THERE WERE OTHERS THAT WE LOOKED AT. THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WE THOUGHT AND THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WOULDN'T AFFECT INSTRUCTION AS MUCH FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM WITHOUT MAKING MULTIPLE CUTS IN MULTIPLE PLACES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS MCSWAIN. SO THE STARBASE CUT, THAT'S THE TOTAL PROGRAM. IS THAT OKAY? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I TOLD THE PROGRAM IT IS OKAY. YES. MR. TRAYER, THANK YOU. SO JUST IN WHAT SHE JUST STATED.

SO THAT'S CUTTING STARBASE. BUT ALL THE OTHER TWO. THAT'S NOT A REDUCTION IN THOSE PROGRAMS. THEY ARE TOTALLY GOING TO GO AWAY. NO COMMUNITY SCHOOLS WILL STILL BE HERE. WE'RE JUST NOT GIVING THEM A CONTRIBUTION. OKAY. YEAH, WE WE HAD DONE THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE HAD ESSER FUNDS. A LOT OF SCHOOL DIVISIONS GAVE COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS WHAT I WOULD CALL CAPITAL CONTRIBUTIONS WHILE WE HAD FEDERAL FUNDS. WHEN THOSE FUNDS WENT AWAY, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE THAT IN THE BUDGET WE DID THIS YEAR, WHEN WE FINALLY GOT THE LAST YEAR'S STATE BUDGET AND WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THAT MONEY, BUT WE CAN'T CONTINUE THAT GOING FORWARD. OKAY. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WAS, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE LIST OF ITEMS? YES. YES, MA'AM. SO IN ADDITION TO THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, ALL OF THIS AS WELL. YES, MA'AM. THESE WERE THE INITIATIVES, THE NEW INITIATIVES IN THE ORIGINAL

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NO, FOR THIS MEETING. NOT FOR THIS MEETING WHEN WE WHEN WE HAD THE INITIAL. INITIALLY, THE CITY HAD ASKED US TO WHEN WE HAD THE 14 MILLION, THE CITY MANAGER ASKED US IF WE WOULD LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, SCRUB IT TO SEE WHAT CUTS WE COULD MAKE TO GET CLOSER TO THE TO THE NUMBER.

SO AT THAT TIME WE DID, AND I THINK WE PROBABLY SHAVED OFF ABOUT 1.8 MILLION, RIGHT? SO THEN AT THAT TIME, WE STARTED LOOKING AT, OKAY, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THAT, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO GET CLOSER TO IT? AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WOULDN'T AFFECT THE CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION DELIVERY FOR OUR STUDENTS. SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH WITH THOSE, THOSE THREE. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SO IS THE STARBASE STAFF. OH, SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW, THAT STARBASE IS GOING TO BE CUT, OR WERE THEY MADE AWARE PRIOR TO OUR MEETING THAT STARBASE WAS GOING TO BE CUT? WE MADE THEM AWARE THAT THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR BASED OFF THE BUDGET, BUT WE COULDN'T FINALIZE IT UNTIL WE KNEW WHAT IT WAS. SO WITH THAT, WE TALKED WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND WE MADE THEM AWARE THAT SAID, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE PUTTING A HOLD ON ON THIS SCIENCE POSITION BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S COMING OVER FROM STARBASE THAT'S GOING TO FILL THAT GAP. IN THE EVENT WE DON'T GET THE FUNDS THAT WE NEED FOR THE FOR THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. WE SORT OF DID A PLACEHOLDER FOR THEM. WE DOCTOR DEVRIES HAD A MEETING WITH THE STARBASE TEAM ITSELF. THIS WAS CLOSER. THAT WASN'T AT THAT TIME. BUT AS WE GET FURTHER INTO IT AND WE SAW THAT EVEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT CAME IN FROM THE STATE, WE WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. I ASKED HER TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH WITH THE DIRECTORS OVER AT STARBASE TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF, OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE LACK OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE THESE OTHER INITIATIVES FORWARD.

OKAY. SO AND THEN SO WHEN WERE THEY MADE AWARE THAT STARBASE POSSIBLY MIGHT BE CUT? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DATE? I CAN LOOK IT UP. GIVE ME JUST A COUPLE MINUTES. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK ON MY CALENDAR. OH, YOU SHOOT ME, I'LL LOOK AFTER YOU. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I CAN WAIT. AND WHILE SHE AND. AND WHILE DOCTOR DEVRIES IS LOOKING AT UP DOCTOR BRACEY. SO I GUESS ON THE ON THE MINDFULNESS SIDE I SEE THAT IS MORE SO LIKE 29000. SO I MEAN WE WE COULDN'T FIND. 29 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S ON THE LOWER END. SO I KNOW WE THESE WERE ALL THE POSITIONS THAT WEREN'T FILLED INITIALLY INITIALLY, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT 29000 AS MORE OF A SMALLER

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SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY. OKAY. AND I THINK I'M AHEAD. THANK YOU DOCTOR, I'M GONNA HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AFTER DOCTOR DEVRIES ANSWER. WHEN THE STAFF WAS ALERTED, WE MET WITH THE STARBASE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON JUNE 23RD TO NOTIFY THEM. AND WE. THE STARBASE STAFF ON JUNE 25TH. SO ON JUNE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN. WHEN WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, WERE THEY AWARE THAT POSSIBLY, HEY, $1 MILLION IS NEEDED TO KEEP STARBASE OPEN? SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON. OKAY, I'LL WAIT FOR IT. WELL, WHAT WE WE DIDN'T TALK SPECIFICS WITH THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT PROGRAMS IT WOULD BE. WE BASED. YES, WE DID, WE DID. HE ASKED THE LIAISON MEETING. YES. OH YEAH. BUT BUT YOU SAID I THOUGHT YOU MEANT COUNCIL. YOU TALKING ABOUT LIAISON MEETING? YEAH. YEAH. JUST TALKING ABOUT YEAH. JUST IN GENERAL CONVERSATION LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE POTENTIAL STARBASE COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS. D L I'D L I SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, SO THEY KNEW, YES, THEY, THEY, THEY KNEW THAT, BUT OKAY, I'M THINKING THAT WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SENT WHEN WE'RE SENDING THE REQUEST? WE DIDN'T SPECIFY, WE JUST ITEMIZED WHAT WE NEEDED. BUT YES, BUT THAT MEETING THAT THAT CONVERSATION DID TAKE PLACE WHEN OUR LIAISON MEETINGS, AND I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE THAN MAYBE MORE THAN ONE OF THE MEETINGS WE TALKED ABOUT CUTTING. OKAY. AND WHAT WAS SPECIFICALLY STATED WAS, HEY, FROM THE, THE CITY MANAGER THAT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. AND WHAT I SAID IN RESPONSE WAS, OKAY, IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, COULD WE COLLABORATE ON A RESPONSE TO COME OUT PUBLICLY AND SAY, HEY, WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO SO THAT IT'S NOT FINGER POINTING AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE LAST MINUTE LIKE, OH, WE ARE TO BLAME AND OR THEY'RE TO BLAME. BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING US BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE THE BANK, IF YOU'RE TELLING US, HEY, WE CANNOT SUSTAIN THESE PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT. SO WE DISCUSSED AND I LAID OUT THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH LAST YEAR. AND I SAID LAST YEAR WE HAD BOTH COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS UPSET BECAUSE WE HAD TO CUT PROGRAMS THAT WERE NEAR AND DEAR TO THEM. BUT ALSO IN THESE MEETINGS, YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THE PROGRAMS MOVING FORWARD. SO THE OFFER STILL STANDS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND US TO COME TOGETHER PRIOR TO BUDGET SEASON AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE CAN DO MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE NOT HERE EVERY TIME LOOKING STRESSED, TRYING TO KEEP SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS. BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, RIGHT? SO YES, WE DID DEFINITELY DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I GOT TIRED OF US BEING HERE AND WE ALL DOING THIS, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, WE DON'T HAVE IT, RIGHT? AND THAT'S JUST THE HONEST TRUTH.

THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION. YEAH. OKAY. SWEET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR PERSON. JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AFTER ALL THE QUESTIONS. SO TO SUM IT UP, AFTER THE CUTS, THOSE THREE CUTS, AFTER ALL OF THAT GOES AWAY, WE STILL NEED THE TWO, 2.5, 2.5. YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. FROM YOUR LIAISON MEETINGS OR ANY OTHER MEETINGS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE HAD.

COMMUNICATION. IS THIS EXPECTED TO BE DONE BY THEM OR HAVE THEY SAID, THIS IS IT, THIS IS THE END OF IT? I THINK THAT'S THE PART I'M MISSING. AND I ASKED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE OF THE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD WITH CITY COUNCIL TRYING TO MOVE ABOUT IN HARMONY. SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR OFFICE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT OR EVEN IF LIAISONS HAVE BEEN BEYOND THIS POINT. PROBABLY NOT THE LIAISONS AT THIS POINT, BUT YOUR OFFICE. YEAH, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER LATE

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THANK YOU. GOOD TO HEAR. SORRY I DIDN'T GET I DIDN'T GET TO Y'ALL. HE GRABBED ME LITERALLY.

I WAS PUTTING SOME FOOD IN MY MOUTH AND, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO TO, TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK, I THINK MISS SHUMAKE STATED IN REFERENCE TO NOT BEING IN THE SAME PLACE EACH YEAR DURING BUDGET SEASON. AND WE, WE HAD VERY GOOD CONVERSATIONS, ROBUST CONVERSATIONS IN LIAISON MEETINGS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FORMULAS COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO WHERE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING EVERY YEAR SO WE CAN PLAN OUR BUDGET EFFECTIVELY KNOWING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CITY. THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THIS SITUATION, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR. SO WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS IN REFERENCE TO THAT. IN FACT, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SHORTFALL, THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, IN OUR APRIL MEETING AND I MADE THE STATEMENT, I SAID, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR IT WAS STATED THAT WE DIDN'T MENTION THAT THERE WOULD POSSIBLY BE CUTS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I STATE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CUTS, YOU KNOW, AND WE START LISTING THOSE. SO THEY UNDERSTOOD. BUT I ALSO MADE A STATEMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU DON'T HAVE IT, I GET IT. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A POLITICAL SHOWCASE OR A WAR ROOM ON FACEBOOK, A BUNCH OF JIBBER JABBER AND TALKING. WE'RE JUST BEING DIRECT WITH EACH OTHER. SO WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SHORTFALL. THEY KNEW IT AS WELL, SO WE HAD TO MAKE THE CUTS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE WITH THAT AS A BOARD, WE. I FEEL WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DISCUSS ALL OPTIONS. MANY OF THEM WE DO NOT LIKE AND PROBABLY WON'T EVEN PASS. BUT.

THE BUDGET WAS ORIGINALLY A 2% INCREASE. THE ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION WOULD BE GOING FROM 2 TO 4. THAT IS AN OPTION. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MANDATORY, ALTHOUGH WE DO WANT TO GIVE OUR STAFF THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE INCREASE THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT THE REASON WHY IT DID INCREASE THAT MUCH IS BECAUSE THE INCREASE IN THE RAISE, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH THAT. AND I SAY WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THAT, THAT WE ORIGINALLY APPROVED APPROVED A 2% RAISE. AND SO WE BUILT OUR BUDGET AROUND THAT. THE STATE DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO IT CHANGED OUR BUDGET. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT EVEN THOUGH WE GOT EXTRA MONEY FROM THE STATE, IT KIND OF DIDN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE EXTRA 2% GOT ADDED ON ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, SO AND THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES AT TONIGHT.

MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU CHAIR. JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. SO MR. FORD SAID CITY COUNCIL IS DELIBERATING ON TUESDAY. SO FROM THAT OUR ORIGINAL ASK WAS 14 MILLION. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR 2.5. SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THAT AND SAY, HEY, WE SEE ALL THESE CUTS, THESE POSITIONS. WE NEED A COST OF WHAT THIS IS. AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE AND SAY, HEY, SCHOOL BOARD, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE Y'ALL 6 MILLION. THEY COULD, THEY COULD. OKAY. JUST THAT ON THEIR OWN. WE ONLY HAD TO TELL THEM, OKAY, A BUDGET AMENDMENT. GOTCHA. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ON TUESDAY, THEY CAN POSSIBLY CHANGE FROM THE 2.5 TO A HIGHER NUMBER. I DID HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. WITH THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY THAT WAS NEEDED THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO GET BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING, HOW HOW ARE WE ADJUSTING THAT? ARE WE PULLING SECURITY FROM ANOTHER SCHOOL? WELL, WE ACTUALLY I KNEW WE HAD A SECURITY ASSOCIATE SECURITY ASSISTANT FOR, FOR THE THE COORDINATOR. WE MOVED ONE POSITION INTO THAT POSITION.

POSITION THAT WAS TECHNICALLY ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF SOME CHANGES. WE MOVED SOMEBODY INTO THAT. SO WE'VE COVERED THAT THAT NEED. AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ONES WAS PACE FROM THAT MISTAKEN. AND WE WE HAVE THE PACE SECURITY OFFICERS WITHIN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO START PACE WITHOUT THE ADEQUATE STAFF. SO REALLY, FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR. OKAY. DO SOME CREATIVE THINGS THOUGH. WE REPURPOSED SOME POSITIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE NEEDED

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OKAY. SHOULD IT BE ON THAT. SO SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR WAS IT FOR FOUR. IT WAS JUST TWO.

JUST TWO. SO IF WE I GUESS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED. OKAY. YES. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. SO THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL FOUR. WE PUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE ELIMINATED TO COME BACK TO A BASE. AND THEN YOU START OVER AND YOU BUILD AGAIN. AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THANK YOU, MR. FORT. SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, IF YOU COULD, SIR. NOT SURE HOW YOU HOW YOU WOULD DO THIS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR INTERNATIONAL TEACHERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST COMPARISON. OKAY. WHEN IT WHEN IT COMES TO STAFFING. WHEN WE HIRE STAFF COMPARED TO HIRING INTERNATIONAL TEACHERS AND THE AMOUNT OF THEM THAT WE RETAIN. THAT WE PROBABLY COULD LET GO. WELL, I DON'T MEAN TO SAY THAT, BUT. RIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. I GOT YOU. SO THE TOTAL COST OF PROCURING AN INTERNATIONAL TEACHER AND THEN ADDING THE SALARY AND BENEFITS VERSUS WHAT IT COSTS TO PROCURE A TEACHER THAT'S ALREADY HERE, RIGHT? SALARIES AND BENEFITS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. RIGHT. GOTCHA. AND IF YOU COULD LIKE TAKE THAT NUMBER AND MULTIPLY IT BY HOW MANY WE STILL HAVE. YES, SIR. IN A DIVISION, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER COULD POSSIBLY BE AND HOW WE COULD USE THAT TO MAYBE NOT CUT SOMETHING OR BRING SOMETHING BACK. OKAY. JUST JUST IN-HOUSE SAVINGS IS WHAT I'M THINKING OF. OKAY. I WILL WORK WITH WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO HELP ME WITH THAT. AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT AND TRY TO GET IT TO YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN. I LOVE INTERNATIONAL TEACHERS. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE COST EFFICIENT, BUT IT OBVIOUSLY HAS AN ADDITIONAL COST. WE GET IT RIGHT. YEAH. I'M SORRY I SKIPPED ALL ACROSS. YOU DIDN'T.

SHE ASKED THE QUESTION. OH, OKAY. OKAY. SO BASED OFF THIS LIST. THESE WERE LIKE THE NEW INITIATIVES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. FOR THIS YEAR, MY QUESTION IS, WITH THE SOFTWARE RENEWAL FEES AND THE TECHNOLOGY SUBSCRIPTIONS AND SERVICE FEES RENEWALS, THEN WHAT INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM IS NOT GETTING RENEWED? I CAN'T ANSWER WHAT'S GETTING RENEWED, BUT WE WHAT WE ALSO DO IN SOME CASES IS WE GET SAVINGS ON RENEWING. WE MIGHT RENEW FOR 18, 24 MONTHS. WE'LL GET SAVINGS AS OPPOSED TO 12. IF WE KNOW THAT THE FUNDING WILL BE THERE. THEN

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AM I RIGHT, DEAN? SO THAT THEIR FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE CONTRACTS, THEY'D BE AUGUST TO JULY. THEY DIDN'T FIT THE FISCAL YEAR. AND SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING? YOU YOU'RE PAYING IN DIFFERENT TIMES WHEN WE KNOW THEY'RE DUE IN JULY, WE KNOW WHAT'S DUE FOR THAT YEAR.

WE ENCUMBER ALL THOSE NUMBERS. THEN AS JULY GOES ON AND WE'VE GOTTEN EVERYTHING ENCUMBERED, WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN THAT BUDGET REMAINING FOR THE YEAR TO ENCOUNTER ANYTHING NEW, ENCOUNTER, ANYTHING THAT MIGHT HAVE AN INCREASE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY, BEGINNING OF THE YEAR TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR. AND NEXT QUESTION I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THE CHAIR WAS, SO HOW MANY SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS, WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE PRE-K CENTER, JUST ONE BETWEEN ALL THREE FOR YIELD. HOW ABOUT THAT? I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MR. HARDY. KNOW THAT NUMBER. HOLD ON. USUALLY WE HAVE LIKE FOUR PER CENTER. SO WE'RE ASKING WE HAVE THREE CENTERS, ADDITIONAL SPED TEACHERS TO ADD OLIVE BRANCH AND ONE AT CHURCHVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO THEY WILL HAVE. THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL. OKAY. ALL ADDITIONAL. OKAY. OKAY. RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE SOME. YES. THEY HAVE OKAY. WE WE DIDN'T CUT ANY. I WANTED TO PIGGY BACK. ALSO, WHEN SHE ASKED ABOUT THE. YES, SIR. ABOUT THE RENEWAL FEES AND THE SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY. AND OUR LIAISON MEETINGS? COUNCILMAN HUGO ASKED. BECAUSE WHAT WE NORMALLY WOULD DO, IF YOU COULD COME AROUND WITH SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTIONS, WE WOULD USE WHAT WE HAD LEFT IN THE YEAR FUNDS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO BUY. YEP. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO OPERATE THAT WAY, RIGHT? SO IT WAS EVEN RECOMMENDED BY COUNCILMAN HUGO THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT THESE ITEMS IN OUR BUDGET. SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT WE NEED INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUY IT IN THE YEAR FUNDS. BUT WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET, BUT WE HAVE TO CUT IT. BUT THAT'S WHY WE DID THAT AS WELL. SO IS IT THAT THE SAME WITH THE RE 180 TEACHERS AND THE THE THREE READING INTERVENTIONALISTS. THESE WERE AS FAR AS THESE WERE ADDITIONAL THESE ADDITIONAL THESE WERE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS. THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE WANTED TO TO HAVE THE STUDENTS ROTATE THROUGH THEM. THEY WANTED TO HAVE A DESIGNATED TEACHER FOR THEM TO FOCUS SOLELY ON, ON RE 180. OKAY. BUT WE DO HAVE WE ALREADY HAVE IT. WE HAVE IT. OKAY. WE JUST WANTED SOME MORE.

WE JUST WANTED WE WANTED EVERYBODY TO TOUCH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND HAVE A DESIGNATED TEACHER TO PROVIDE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL OF THIS WAS SUPPLEMENTAL TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT WE ALREADY HAD. OKAY. WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE HERE. THESE WERE ALL THE PROPOSALS TO ADD TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. SO THESE AREN'T CUTTING THESE TEACHERS. THIS IS WE WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH REVENUE. AND YOU SAW THIS IN THE ESTIMATE OF NEEDS THAT I PRESENTED. ALL OF THIS WAS PART OF IT. OKAY. MISS JACKSON AGAIN. YES. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO I KNOW THESE WERE ADDITIONAL. SO CHAIR ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE ESL. SO WE WERE ADDING TWO MORE ON TOP ON TOP OF US BEING ORIGINALLY UNDER THE AMOUNT BECAUSE INITIALLY WE WERE SHORT ESL TEACHERS, SO WE WERE GOING TO BE OVER TWO. I THINK THE TWO WOULD HAVE BROUGHT US TO STATE STANDARD. IS THAT CORRECT? TWO WOULD HAVE BROUGHT US TO STATE STANDARDS, SO WE STILL ADDED THE TWO, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO REPURPOSE. SO WE STILL ADDED TWO. BUT THROUGH REPURPOSING THROUGH OTHER ALLOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET. SO WE WERE SHORT TWO. YES. AND THAT'S WHY WE BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE IT'S EXACTLY TWO. OH, WE'VE ALREADY SHORT. THIS IS LIKE AN ADDITIONAL THAT WE NEED. BUT I KNOW WE WERE SHORT. OH RIGHT. RIGHT RIGHT. YEAH. SO THIS WASN'T AN ADDITIONAL. RIGHT. CORRECT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. SO SO WE HAVE THE TWO TO PUT US UP TO STATE STANDARDS BECAUSE WE MOVE SOMEBODY TO THAT POSITION. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO SOMEBODY NEXT BEFORE I TALK AGAIN. SO WITH THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT NOW CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR, WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW? NOTHING. BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS ADDITIONAL. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A NEW WAVE THAT WE WERE COMING THROUGH TO REALLY HELP WITH THE WELLNESS OF OUR SCHOOL. THAT WAS A NEW POSITION. THAT WAS A NEW YES, MA'AM. SO WITH THAT, THAT LITTLE ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE IS DEAR TO ME. SO THE COST FOR THAT ONE IS WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT 20. GIVE ME A SECOND.

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SO WHAT ON THIS LIST HAS ALREADY BEEN REPURPOSED. AND HOW DOES US REPURPOSING IMPACT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A WHOLE? WELL, I THINK THE REPURPOSING WHAT WE DID INITIALLY RIGHT AFTER THE SCHOOL YEAR, I THINK WE'RE SEEING OUR HR. WE HAD A WE HAD A MEETING TO DISCUSS STAFFING, AND I THINK DOCTOR STILLER HIT ON IT EARLIER. WE HAD SOME POSITIONS IN SOME SCHOOLS THAT THEY WERE OVER, SO WE COULD ACTUALLY DO SOME REDUCTIONS AND STILL MEET THE STUDENT TEACHER CLASS SIZE RATIO. SO IN THAT PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO MAYBE, LET'S SAY FOR AN EXAMPLE, WE SHORED UP EIGHT POSITIONS. SO THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT EIGHT POSITIONS. WE LOOK AT THE POT OF MONEY THAT EACH OF THOSE POSITIONS HAVE WITH IT. AND THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE CAN GET TWO FULL TIME SECURITY OFFICERS AS PART OF THAT. WE CAN GET ESL TEACHERS IN THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE. SO THAT'S HOW THAT TOOK PLACE. WE DIDN'T CUT ANYTHING. WE JUST RIGHT SIZED EVERYTHING, WHICH CAUSED THE ADDITIONAL SURPLUS. IF YOU WANT TO SAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO SO. SO WITH THE REPURPOSING AND WE STILL NEED ALL OF THIS THOUGH, RIGHT? ASIDE FROM THE TWO SECURITY OFFICERS AND THE TWO TEACHERS, THE THREE SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS, WE STILL NEED EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST. YEAH.

THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED. OKAY. THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED INITIALLY. SO.

YES. AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT INITIALLY. THIS IS NOT THE OTHER ONES ARE THE ONES WE'RE ACTUALLY CUTTING. RIGHT. THE THREE STAR BASE AND. RIGHT. MINDFULNESS AND COMMUNITY AND SCHOOLS. SO I MEAN YOU YOU'RE YOU'RE A GOVERNING BOARD. YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING, RIGHT? THESE ARE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SO IF WE GOT ALL OF THIS COUPLED WITH THE

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SHOULD THEY COME OFF THE LIST BECAUSE WE NO LONGER NEED THEM? OR DO WE STILL NEED THEM TO BE ON THE LIST? AND IF WE GOT THAT APPROVED, WOULD IT BE TOO MANY MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS, TOO MANY SCHOOL SECURITY OFFICERS? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A YES. OKAY. SO, OKAY. THE REASON WHY, THE REASON WHY UP HERE, OKAY, THIS IS NOT THEY'RE NOT SAYING THIS IS A LIST OF EVERYTHING WE STILL NEED. THIS IS WHAT WAS IN OUR ORIGINAL ASK EVERYTHING UP HERE BEFORE THEY REPURPOSED ANYTHING. OKAY. THIS WAS OUR ORIGINAL ASK. SO THEY'RE JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT THEY TOOK OUT OF OUR ORIGINAL ASK TO GET TO WHERE WE WERE. YEAH. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. AND SO AND WITH THAT, I WILL ALSO SAY, IF YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE, YOU THINK, HEY, WE WANT TO KEEP OR BRING BACK FROM OUR ORIGINAL LIST, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO, WE DO WHATEVER WE WANT AND ASK WHATEVER WE WANT. IT'S UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU AS ALWAYS. AND THEN, MISS MCSWAIN, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. YES, LORD JESUS, I NEED A BUZZER OR SOMETHING. TOLD ME I SHOULD TESTING THE CHAIR. I'M SORRY, I FORGOT. YOU'RE MY MAN.

OKAY. PART OF MY QUESTION WAS WHAT BOARD MEMBERS CUSTOMS ASKED. SO, DO WE HAVE A LIST OF.

NOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED, HERE IS WHERE WE ARE. IN REFERENCE TO THIS LIST, THAT'S PART ONE. AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS PIGGYBACK OFF THE STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE IN REFERENCE TO THE RAISE. DO WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE DO TWO VERSUS FOUR AND WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE, AND HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE TO THE STUDY? IT'D BE 2 MILLION LESS. HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT? WE LOSE REVENUE TOO BECAUSE WE DID TWO, WE LOSE $1.6 MILLION IN REVENUE. OH, RIGHT. RIGHT. FROM THE STATE BECAUSE TO DO IN ORDER WHEN YOU WHEN YOU DO THE RAISE, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO FOR YOU HAVE TO DO FOUR AND THEN YOU ACCEPT THE MONEY FOR THE FOUR. IF YOU DO TWO, YOU SUBTRACT WHAT TWO WAS 1.6 WAS THE TWO.

NOW IT'S 3.2 OR ROUGHLY. SO WE WOULD LOSE THAT REVENUE TOO, WHICH WOULD MEAN YOU ULTIMATELY BE SHORT, RIGHT. NOT A REPURPOSED CONFERENCE, RIGHT. RIGHT. YOU CAN'T DO TWO AND GET ALL THE REVENUE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS UPDATED. YES, PLEASE. SO WHEN Y'ALL SAY YOU WANT TO SEE THE UPDATED, WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING ON COMING BACK TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THAT? DOCTOR BRACY, YOU WANT US TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS WITH REPURPOSING RIGHT NOW? I'M JUST ASKING, THAT'S ALL. IF I CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, BUT. WELL, I MEAN, LET'S TRY TO DO IT NOW, RIGHT? SO LET'S LET'S GO DOWN POINT BY POINT. PART TIME SECURITY OFFICER, NEW DIRECTIONS. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE REPURCHASED THAT ONE. THAT'S NOT A RESEARCH. NO WE DIDN'T. OKAY. SENIOR SUPERVISOR SECURITY. THAT WAS ONE THAT WE DID REPURPOSE. SECURITY OFFICERS AT PACE ARE IN THE BUDGET. THE ATHLETIC TRAINERS.

LET ME GIVE A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THAT. WE HAVE OUTSOURCED ATHLETIC TRAINERS TO AN OUTSIDE COMPANY SO THAT THEY COULD BETTER MANAGE THAT PROCESS. SO WE DON'T NEED THE ATHLETIC TRAINERS ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'VE OUTSOURCED THAT PROGRAM AND KNOW THE NEXT QUESTION WE GAVE EVERY EMPLOYEE THAT WAS WITH US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH THE VENDOR BEFORE THEY WENT OUT AND ADVERTISE FOR THOSE JOBS. SO THE FOUR THAT WE HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY WITH THE VENDOR TO, TO BRING THEM ON, AND WE WORK WITH THE VENDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE MADE WHOLE SALARY WISE. NOW, I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. TWO OF THE FOUR DECIDED TO STAY WITH THE VENDOR. THE OTHER TWO DECIDED TO GO ELSEWHERE, BUT WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO MAKE SURE THEY WOULD KEEP THEIR JOB IN THE SCHOOL THEY WERE IN, BUT IN TRANSPARENCY WITH THAT. THE

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AND THEY SAID, WELL, THEY JUST LEFT ME HIGH AND DRY. NO, WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO TRY TO MAKE IT THE BEST OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE FOR YOU. LIKE I SAID, TWO OF THE FOUR, ONE OF THEM WAS AN INTERESTING SITUATION. I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE, BUT IT WASN'T OUR FAULT. ALL RIGHT.

CHAIR. QUICK QUESTION. I I'M SORRY. NO NO NO. SO WAS THAT OUTSOURCED OR WAS THAT CONTRACTED. WHAT CONTRACTED. SO WHEN WAS THE RFP SENT OUT FOR THAT. WE WE APPROVED THE CO-OP.

THE FOR THIS REMEMBER BACK WHEN WE DID ATHLETIC TRAINERS, WE COULDN'T FIND ATHLETIC TRAINERS FOR ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. SO THAT WAS DONE PROBABLY A YEAR AGO THEN RIGHT ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

BUT WE. IT WAS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FIND IT. WE HAD WE HAD POSITIONS WE COULDN'T FIND. WE COULDN'T STAFF ALL OUR POSITIONS FOR A WHILE. WE WERE STILL WORKING. WE HAD FOUR POSITIONS AND WE HAD, I THINK 2 OR 3 ATHLETIC TRAINERS HIRED. SO THE. I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE THE TWO WOULD HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED THROUGH RPS VERSUS THE FOUR. ALL FOUR WERE RPS, BUT WE HAD ALREADY OUT. THAT'S WHY I WAS. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY OUTSOURCED AND APPROVED A VENDOR A YEAR AGO THROUGH THE. WE NEEDED. BECAUSE WE HAVE SIX THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, THREE MIDDLE SCHOOLS. WE NEEDED THOSE OTHER TWO POSITIONS FILLED. AND IF WE HAD OVERFLOW. IN OTHER WORDS, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE SCHOOL. WE USED THE VENDOR TO HELP US SOURCE AND STAFF THOSE POSITIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE ATHLETIC TRAINERS. IT'S A IT'S A SHORTAGE IN THE AREA AND EVERYWHERE OF ATHLETIC TRAINERS.

SO JUST LIKE THEY CAN'T HIRE THEM, WE COULDN'T. RIGHT. SO WE WORK WITH THE PARTNER TO TRY TO MAKE SURE OUR SCHOOLS WERE COVERED AT ALL TIMES. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. FOX. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THE BUILDING SERVICES STAFF MEMBERS WERE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AS AN INCLUSION. ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS FROM NEW DIRECTIONS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WAS INCLUDED OR REPURPOSED OR ANYTHING. 504 PROGRAM SPECIALIST, CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR, DISCIPLINE OFFICER, SPECIALIST INCLUDED OR NO. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THE TEACHER QUALITY PROGRAM SPECIALIST. NONE OF THEM WERE INCLUDED OR REPURPOSED. SAME WITH ENGLISH AND SECOND LANGUAGE SPECIAL ED TEACHERS READING INTERVENTIONS REDONE AND PERFORMING ARTS TEACHERS. NO REPURPOSED SOFTWARE RENEWALS. AS I STATED, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD BE COVERED WITH THE REGULAR BUDGET. IF I'M GOING TOO FAST, LET ME KNOW. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE NEXT ONE. A NEW TEACHER MENTOR.

THAT WAS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT. DO WE HAVE I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME NEW TEACHER MENTOR. I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS THEY COULDN'T BE DIRECTLY MENTOR. I THINK THAT WAS A LOT OF THE ISSUE. YEAH, THEY WE DO HAVE THEM WRITE THEIR TEACHERS. YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE TIME WITH THE NEW TEACHER.

CORRECT. OR WHAT? WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE THEM A STIPEND FOR DOING THAT, FOR SERVING AS A MENTOR. OH, JUST THE STIPEND. OKAY, I GOTCHA. OKAY. AND WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT ONE THAT IS IN THAT IS IN, I APOLOGIZE, THAT IS IN. SO THE NEW TEACHER ONE IS IN THAT IS IN MENTOR, THE MENTOR AS WELL AS THE CONTACT LEAD. OKAY. THE REASON I WORKED ON THE PLAN FOR THAT. SO THOSE ARE IN OKAY STIPEND. ALL RIGHT. INSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR PERFORMING ARTS.

I BELIEVE THEY BOUGHT SOME OF THOSE AT YEAR END. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY BOUGHT SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS THAT YEAR END. NOT 100%. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO USE SOME YEAR END SAVINGS TO HELP THEM BUY THOSE MATERIALS. THE STUDENT READING TUTOR PROGRAM IS NOT IN INCREASES THE STAFF STIPENDS. WE DID SOME OF THOSE. WE COULD NOT DO THEM ALL WHEN WE WENT BACK AND REPURPOSED SOME STIPENDS TO DO THAT. MATERIALS FOR ATTENDANCE INITIATIVES. WE DID SOME OF THAT AT YEAR END. SO WE BOUGHT THOSE MATERIALS AT YEAR END. AND THEN WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY SUBSCRIPTIONS AND SERVICE RENEWALS AS WELL. SO AND, AND THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED PERFORMING ARTS AS WELL IS BECAUSE CHURCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT PERFORMING ARTS ACADEMY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACADEMY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE WE FUND IT AND IT ACTUALLY BECOMES A FULL FLEDGED ACADEMY. YOU DON'T HAVE ONE TEACHER TEACHING, YOU KNOW, THREE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ARTS. YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY PROBABLY

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OKAY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO. SO THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. SO WITH US GETTING THIS INFORMATION NOW, I'M TRYING. YEAH. IT'S OKAY WITH US GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT AS A BOARD.

IS NOW AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR US TO PUT IN OUR ASK? OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO WAIT? WAIT, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. THEN FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THREE CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS, ONE FOR EACH LEVEL OF SCHOOLING ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH. I THINK ONE IS JUST IT'S JUST GOING TO KILL THAT PERSON WHETHER WE GET IT OR NOT.

THAT IS MY ASK FOR THREE TO START AND OF COURSE, INCREASE IT LATER. THAT WASN'T EVEN THE ORIGINAL ASK. MISS JACKSON, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO WITH THE PACE CENTER NOT OPENING, I'M LOOKING AT THE FUNDS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. AND MAYBE MR. FAULK, YOU CAN. YOU KNOW, THIS YOUR THING. SO IF THE PACE CENTER IS NOT OPENING, UTILITY INCREASES FOR PACE CENTER, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, LET'S SAY PACE CENTER OPENS DECEMBER, WHICH WOULD BE THE SECOND HALF OF THE SEMESTER. THAT UTILITY RATE WOULD BE PROBABLY HALF OF THAT. THE PACE CENTER STAFFING AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, THEY WOULDN'T BE THERE IF THE PACE CENTER IS NOT OPEN. IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY TO LOOK AT IT? STILL NEED SOME OF THOSE INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS BECAUSE INSTRUCTION IS GOING TO BE GOING ON AT SCHOOL STARTS. SO STAFF UTILITIES YOU'RE PROBABLY CORRECT. SOME SEMBLANCE. SOME OF THAT IS NOT JUST PACE. IT'S ALSO SOME OTHER PLACES AS WELL. BUT PACE IS THE BIGGEST PART OF IT. RIGHT. AND SO IF THE CENTER IS NOT OPEN, THE SECURITY OFFICERS WOULDN'T BE THERE.

CORRECT. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. MAYBE YOU. YEAH. OKAY. AND WHAT AND AND ALSO, IF THE CENTER IS NOT OPEN, SOME OF THE TEACHING STAFF WOULDN'T BE THERE. HAVE. SO STAFFS ALREADY ALREADY. THE STAFF IS ALREADY. YES. SO SOME OF THAT PACE BUDGET OF THE ONES THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE AND NOT NEEDED. IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY OPEN. THAT IS TRUE. BUT IF YOU IF YOU BUILD A HALF A PACE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, YOU GOT TO COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND ADD IT. SO YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE TO ADD WHATEVER WE DIDN'T ADD THIS YEAR. YOU REALLY WANT TO START WITH THE WHOLE YEAR? SURE. AND WE SELECTED THE PACE SECURITY OFFICERS AMONG THE STAFF THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

RIGHT. SO SO THERE WON'T BE ADDITIONAL INTERVIEWS IN TERMS OF IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET WOULD BE. SO THAT STAFF IS ALREADY HERE AND WORKING. SO THEY'LL BE IN OTHER SCHOOLS EVEN WHEN WE OPEN, WHENEVER WE DO OPEN POST PACE, THEY'LL JUST SLIDE OVER. SO THOSE PEOPLE. SO THE TWO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET FOR THE 120,000 ARE ALREADY HIRED AND EMPLOYED. BUT AT THIS MOMENT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO OTHER SCHOOLS. ANYBODY IN THE THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT ALREADY HIRED WITH THE BUDGETS APPROVED IN THOSE TWO POSITIONS IN TERMS OF WE'LL INTERVIEW. AND THOSE POSITIONS CERTAINLY WILL BE INTERNAL. RIGHT. GO TO YOUR MOVE. AND POSSIBLY THAT SALARY WOULD BE ADJUSTED TO FIT THAT THAT 120. IS THAT WHAT YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO PACE ARE IDENTIFIED.

THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW. BUT AS RIGHT AS PACE OPENS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVED TO PACE. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BACKFILL IN THOSE OTHER PLACES WITH NEW OR WHOEVER, WHICH WOULD BE 120. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ESTIMATE. WHATEVER. THAT'S THE ESTIMATE. AT WHAT WE WOULD ESTIMATE FOR A SECURITY OFFICER. IT COULD BE LOWER, COULD BE HIGHER. OKAY. JUST LIKE A TEACHER. WE'RE GOING TO ESTIMATE A TEACHER AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. BUT IF YOU HIRE A TEACHER WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WOULD HAVE ESTIMATED. BUT IT BALANCES OUT ONCE YOU LOOK AT EVERYBODY THAT YOU'RE HIRING. OKAY. WITH THE SALARY. YES, MA'AM. BENEFITS. SOMEBODY MIGHT TAKE HEALTH INSURANCE. SOMEBODY MIGHT NOT. SO I BUDGETED HEALTH INSURANCE FOR YOU. YOU DIDN'T TAKE IT, BUT YOU CAME IN AND TOOK FAMILY, SO YOU KNOW, IT BALANCES. GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

NORMALLY BUDGET ABOUT 2000 FOR BENEFITS. YES. IT WAS REALLY ABOUT 30 TO 35%, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. BY THE TIME YOU GO FICA HEALTH INSURANCE, VRS AND VLDB AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT GOT ACRONYMS. SO SOMEBODY ELSE, I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M MISSING. ANYONE ELSE? WE CAN LOOK AROUND. OKAY. MINE IS REAL QUICK. THANK YOU CHAIR. IF I CAN ASK. AND IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S COOL. STUDENT READING TUTOR PROGRAM. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO, EVEN FROM COVID. SO IF IF WE CAN GET OUR BABIES A PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH THEIR READING, THAT WOULD

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OKAY. YES. GOING AROUND THE TABLE. OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH. NO, HE. HE WENT FARTHER WITH IT.

WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, CONTRACTS HAVE TO COME UP. BUT YOU EXPLAINED EVERYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO THAT PAY THAT MISS ATKINSON WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND WITH THE. I MENTIONED PERFORMING ARTS. ALSO THE 8180. THAT'S MY THAT THAT AFFECTS OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS. CORRECT? YES. AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD START FOCUSING OUR OUR RESOURCES TOWARDS OUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS. I THINK THEY NEED ADDITIONAL HELP. THEY DO THERE.

SO I'M DEFINITELY A PROPONENT OF THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO CHOOSE EVERYTHING, RIGHT. REALLY ON THIS SIDE EFFECTS INSTRUCTION FOR THE MOST PART. SO, YOU KNOW. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY. YEAH. ABOUT THE SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS. YEAH. WE'RE WAITING ON THAT ONE FOR THE PRESCHOOL. IT'S A PRESCHOOL. YES. THEY'RE ALREADY COMING FROM EARLY INTERVENTION.

RIGHT. SO OF COURSE STARBASE. AND THEN. I THINK THE STIPENDS, MR. FAULK, YOU SAID WAS IS THAT MORE ATHLETIC OR LIKE THE AFTER SCHOOL, LIKE THE ONE THAT INCREASES THE SELECT STAFF STIPENDS? LIKE, LIKE THE AFTER SCHOOL EXTRACURRICULAR, LIKE DECA, ALL THOSE THAT THE TEACHERS THAT STAY AFTER SCHOOL. I GOT TO GO BACK, Y'ALL. OKAY. HOLD ON. LET ME GO BACK IN BACK IN MY LAB AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT I CAN'T REMEMBER. THEY'RE YOURS, BUT WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE STIPENDS. SELECT SELECT STAFF. WAS THAT MORE ATHLETIC OR WAS THAT. I THINK SOME OF THOSE WERE LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, AFTERSCHOOL, LIKE SOME OF THEM WERE ATHLETIC OR ACTIVITY TYPE MARCHING BAND, RIGHT? LIKE SOMEBODY, SOME OF THOSE ROBOTICS LIKE THAT, SOME OF YOUR MUSIC DRAMA. YEP. YEAH. AND THOSE WERE THE ONES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THERE. YEAH. I REMEMBER WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT. RIGHT. YEAH. THE COACHES SUPPLEMENTS. YES. YOU WERE.

WELL AS WELL AS THE BAND ROBOTICS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF MINES AS WELL FOR THOSE THAT STAY AFTER SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THERE'S TWO. YOU'LL SEE. I MIGHT AS WELL KEEP IT THE SAME. IS THAT WHERE YOU HAVE THE COACHES. BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT COACH. THEY'RE NOT IN ADDITIONAL. I'M SORRY, I WON'T FINISH, LETITIA. I'M SORRY. AND THEN IRENE. MINE WILL, OF COURSE, BE SECURITY. MENTAL HEALTH. SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS AND THE ATTENDANCE INITIATIVE. SO THE DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE IS YOURS WILL BE ATTENDANCE INITIATIVE. YEAH. EVERYTHING ELSE. AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE PURCHASED THOSE RIGHT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. I THINK ALL OF THE INITIATIVE, THOSE THINGS THEY NEEDED, WE GOT WE CAN CHECK ON THAT TOMORROW. ALL. YEAH, WE PURCHASED THOSE END OF THE YEAR SO THAT THAT'S ALREADY DONE. SO ALL BECAUSE YOU SAID SOME. I YOU. YEAH. WE PURCHASED IT ALL.

YES. WE SPENT OVER 100/100,000 DOLLARS ON BUYING INITIATIVES, OPENING THEM OUT TO ALL OF THE SCHOOLS. AND WE HAVE A CLOSET OF ADDITIONAL INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE TO STUDENTS AND THOSE GREAT. WE TOOK CARE OF THAT. I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THAT MISS BOONE WAS NEXT. DID WE DID WE INCLUDE THE READING INTERVENTIONIST? WE SAID WE SAID ALL THE READING, EVERYTHING READING RELATED. YEAH, IT'S SUITED FOR THE STUDENTS. OKAY. SO ANYTHING READING, ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S THE FAULT. I KNOW YOU CAN. YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT MATH.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? OH, I DON'T KNOW. NOW. THAT TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, I. I KNOW YOU DO. I LOVE YOUR CONFIDENCE, BUT NO, I AIN'T THAT GOOD. I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE I KNOW YOU ARE, I KNOW. I LET MR. FAULKNER INTO HIS HEAD. TRUST ME. HE DID. I BELIEVE HIM. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE. JUST KEEP US TOGETHER? WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE HERE FROM THE CUTS? OH, YOU SAID READING.

SO? SO THIS IS MY THOUGHT HERE. HOW? HOW DO ALL THIS MONEY. ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO CALL ANOTHER MEETING? BECAUSE HOW DO WE APPROVE OUR BUDGET IF WE DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ADDED? THAT WAS MY QUESTION IN THE BEGINNING. HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? THAT'S

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HOW LONG DO YOU NEED US? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S PROBABLY I WANT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND.

HE NEEDS TO RECALCULATE. IT'S LOOKING LIKE AN ADDITIONAL FOUR. NO, IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN THAT.

I THINK YOU'RE TALKING STARBUCKS 3 OR 4. YEAH, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT 3 OR 4. 100, $100,000 POSITIONS READING INTERVENTIONIST. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T GUESS HE GOTTA GIVE HIS BEST. NO, I WAS I WAS JUST SAYING IT'S PROBABLY LOOKING AT AN ADDITIONAL FOUR BASED ON THOSE POSITIONS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ADDING THESE BACK INTO YOUR BASE BUDGET PROPOSAL, YOU COULD APPROVE THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BUDGET WITH THOSE PROGRAMS AND HAVE MR. FALK CALCULATE THAT NUMBER. AND THE NUMBER WOULD BE WHAT IT WILL BE. I'M NOT SURE IT WILL CHANGE NECESSARILY IF YOU JUST APPROVE THE PROGRAMS AND THE BUDGET AND SAY WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL. WE CAN APPROVE A BUDGET WITHOUT A NUMBER, PRETTY MUCH. YEAH. YOU HAVE. I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T SAY THAT UNLESS YOU UNLESS YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE CONCEPTS. BUT YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING, IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE AND TRYING TO GET IT BEFORE COUNCIL IN ENOUGH TIME. IT'S, I THINK LEGALLY YOU WOULD BE OKAY DOING IT THAT WAY. OKAY. BECAUSE WE NEED TIME. YEAH. ME TOO. YEAH. I GO TO LEGAL MAN ON THAT ONE. LEGAL IS, YOU KNOW, LEGAL IS ONE THING. WHETHER IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE OR NOT IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. RIGHT. IF WE. YES, MA'AM. IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BUDGET, THESE ITEMS WERE LISTED WITH A COST BESIDE IT. CORRECT? THEY WERE. CAN WE JUST. I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. GOTTA GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD THOUGH, BECAUSE REMEMBER WE GOT 2% MORE ADDED TO THESE. RIGHT.

SO, SO BUT THEN WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS THOUGH, RIGHT? NO, I GOT TO GO BACK AND DO THAT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GOING BACK TO RECALCULATE THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS BECAUSE WE TOOK THOSE OUT OF OUR PROPOSAL. I WENT BACK AND STARTED FROM SCRATCH. SO OUR BASE BUDGET PLUS ADDITIONS INCREASES MINUS ANY DELETIONS. SO I MEAN CAN IT BE DONE. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD. YEAH.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'LL DO IT. BUT JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT I CAN'T GIVE YOU A NUMBER RIGHT NOW. I REALLY CAN'T. I WISH I COULD, BUT I CAN'T. SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THIS EVENING, TOMORROW MORNING, PULL ALL THESE ITEMS, MAKE SURE I HAD EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED AND START CALCULATING IT, AND THEN PUTTING IT BACK IN THE BUDGET TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE. BECAUSE, BECAUSE EVEN WITH EVEN WITH IF YOU SAY, HEY, PUT IT BACK IN THERE, HE'S AT 2% TO THE SALARY AND ALSO RECALCULATE THE BENEFITS AND THE BENEFITS. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT JUST EASY ENOUGH TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD THE LAST TIME, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST ME IS 2% MORE. YEAH. RIGHT. MISS BOONE, HOW MANY READING INTERVENTIONISTS DO WE HAVE IN THE DISTRICT? I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE THREE. SO READING.

YEAH, YEAH. SO SO WE JUST HOLD ON. SO WE HAVE READING COACHES. WE HAVE SIX OF THOSE. I WOULD LOVE MORE READING COACHES, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY. THEY ACTUALLY COACH THE TEACHERS HOW TO TEACH READING RIGHT AT THE AT THAT'S AT THE ELEMENTARY LEVEL. SO EACH COACH HAS TWO SCHOOLS. THEY ONLY WORK WITH TEACHERS PRIMARILY. AND THEN DURING THAT, TOWARD THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, THEY START WORKING WITH KIDS TOO TO GET THEM PREPPED FOR THE SOLS.

THEN EVERY SCHOOL HAS A READING SPECIALIST, THE READING SPECIALISTS PRIMARILY WORK.

THEY SPLIT THEIR TIME BETWEEN KIDS AND AND TEACHERS. SO THEY PULL SMALL GROUPS. THEY DON'T WORK WITH LARGE GROUPS OF KIDS. THEY PULL SMALL GROUPS OF KIDS AND THEY WORK IN SMALL GROUP INTERVENTION GROUPS. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE WITH THE VLA THAT THAT NOW HAS THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING READING PLANS. SO THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING THE TEACHERS CREATE AND MONITOR THE READING PLAN, THE STUDENT READING PLANS. THAT'S THEIR JOB.

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IT WAS BEFORE I GOT HERE, BUT WE HAVE THEM AT THREE SCHOOLS. I BELIEVE IT WAS WATERVIEW DOUGLAS PARK, AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER, MAYBE WEST HAVEN, AND THEY WERE OUR THREE HIGH NEED SCHOOLS AT THE TIME. IT COULD BE CRADDOCK. AND WHAT WE'VE DETERMINED IS IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE THREE MORE THAT WE COULD PUT AT THREE MORE SCHOOLS. YEAH, AND THAT WOULD JUST BE AN EXTRA LAYER OF SUPPORT THAT COULD BE USED AS ANOTHER PULL OUT FOR SMALL GROUPS. WE JUST HAVE SO MANY KIDS WHO ARE BELOW READING LEVEL. THE SMALLER WE CAN GET THEM INTO SMALL, YOU KNOW, THE SMALLER GROUPS, WE CAN GET THEM INTO MORE CONSISTENTLY, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE. THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT READING GROUPS.

THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAID THREE, YOU HAVE LIKE, WHOA. YEAH, I'M, I'M ALL FOR ANYTHING WITH READ IN IT THAT WE PUT IT BACK BECAUSE I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE KIDS, OUR STUDENTS HAVE READING PLANS, SOME OF THEM READING TWO LEVELS BELOW WHERE THEY ARE, AND THEN THEY'RE EXPECTED TO TAKE THESE SOL TESTS AT THEIR SCHOOL LEVEL, AT THEIR LEVEL. IF YOU READ IN TWO LEVELS LOWER THAN WHERE YOU ARE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME PASSING THOSE SOLS. AND YOU MISS THE ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT MISS THE FUNDAMENTAL YEARS WITH DURING COVID. NOW I CAN GO INTO THIS AND TALK ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT BECAUSE I DID MY RESEARCH, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE STUDENTS GET BACK ON THEIR LEVEL SO THAT THEY CAN DO BETTER WITH THESE SOLS. AM I AM I HITTING IT? YEAH. AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AT THE LOWER GRADE LEVELS, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THOSE THOSE GAPS DECREASE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE COVID BABIES ANYMORE. AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BOUNCE BACK. BUT THOSE OLDER KIDS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY COVID ARE STILL COMING UP THROUGH, AND WE STILL SEE THOSE. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SAY COVID WAS SIX YEARS AGO, WHAT WAS SIX YEARS AGO FOR YOU AND ME. BUT FOR THOSE BABIES THAT MISSED THE FUNDAMENTALS OF READING, THEY'RE STILL DEALING WITH THE REPERCUSSIONS OF WHAT CAME OUT OF COVID. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THIS WHY WE NEED THE READING. WE NEED ALL KINDS OF READING. SO WHATEVER Y'ALL CAN DO AT READING, I'M FOR IT. MY END. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO WHERE WE ARE WITH WITH THESE REQUESTS. SO WE'RE AGREEING TO. LEAN ON OUR LEGAL ADVICE AND APPROVE THE BUDGET.

WITH THE PROPOSED POSITIONS BEING ADDED AND PROGRAMS BEING ADDED BACK. AND MR. FALK WILL GET THAT THAT TRUE NUMBER OVER THE CITY COUNCIL. YES. CAN CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THEM ALL? YES, SIR. SO 500 FOR PROGRAM SPECIALIST CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR. I'M RESEARCHING THE DISCIPLINE OFFICER. IS THAT ONE. NO. YOU SAID NO. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. TEACHER QUALITY PROGRAM SPECIALIST. IS THAT ONE? NO. OKAY. AND WHAT'S YOUR SECOND LANGUAGE? WE GOT THAT SPECIAL ED. YES. READING INTERVENTIONIST. READ 180. ALL READING THE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN. THAT'S RIGHT. WE ALREADY DID THOSE. Y'ALL CONFUSING ME. BUT THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE GOT PERFORMING ARTS TEACHER, OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? IT WAS ONE MORE READING. OH, THE STUDENT READING TUTOR, STUDENT READING AND THEN THE INSTRUCTION MATERIALS FOR PERFORMING ARTS ACADEMY. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A TEACHER, YOU NEED MATERIALS. OKAY. GOT IT. AND IT WAS IT WAS STARBASE. STARBASE. OH. AND STARBASE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT MISS JACKSON SURE DID. SHE'S.

YEAH. OH, OKAY. I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING THE STATUTES, BUT. OKAY, SO THAT I'M CLEAR.

COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS IS STILL GOING TO BE IN THE SCHOOL. WE'RE JUST NOT GIVING THEM MONEY. YEAH. OKAY. BUT WHEN THEY CUT POSITIONS, THEY WON'T BE IN THERE, THOUGH. OH. I'M SORRY. THEY WON'T BE IN THIS SCHOOL. THEY DON'T HAVE TO CUT THEM. SORRY. SO, CHAIR, I KNOW

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I THINK FIVE POINTS SOMETHING I THINK. SURE. I BELIEVE SO FROM THE. 14 WE WOULD HAVE AM I RIGHT? SO SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT AMOUNT. YEAH. WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT 2 TO 3 MILLION. RIGHT. IT ADDED. YOU MEAN. WELL WITH THE ADDITIONAL BONUSES WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO ADD THE 2% AS WELL.

RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER THREE POINT SOMETHING. 3 MILLION. ROUGHLY 3 MILLION.

RIGHT. ROUGHLY 3 MILLION. SO WE WOULD HAVE ADDED 3 MILLION TO THE 7.6 THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.

RIGHT. SO THERE HAVE BEEN 10.6 THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SHORT IF WE KEPT EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET PLUS THE NEW RAISE. SO WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO ASK THEM FOR TEN.

SO HOLD ON. LET ME LET ME GO BACK. HOLD ON. TEN. TEN. 10.6 MINUS AN INCREASE OF 3.6. IT'S STILL BEEN ABOUT $7 MILLION. YEAH ROUGHLY 7 MILLION. ROUGHLY ABOUT $7 MILLION IF WE INCLUDED EVERYTHING PLUS THE NEW RAISE. GOTCHA. AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WAITING ON A 2.57. SOUNDS FEASIBLE. YES. YES. YES. CAN WE? SO WE WANT THIS IN ADDITION TO THE 2.5. WE'RE SO 5777772.5 WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE. WHAT WE'RE ASKING WITH THE CUTS WITH THE CUTS WITH THE CUTS. SO 2.5 IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE CUTS. IF WE'RE ASKING TO ADD THOSE THINGS BACK IN, WE'RE GOING TO THEM AND ASK FOR SEVEN APPROXIMATELY SEVEN, APPROXIMATELY A TOTAL OF SEVEN APPROXIMATELY. PROBABLY WON'T BE SEVEN. NO, IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN SEVEN. I THINK MORE LIKE FIVE POINT SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER, BUT IT'LL BE LESS THAN SEVEN. WHAT CAN WE WORK WITH? FIVE. WELL, AT AGAIN, I, I WANT US TO COME TOGETHER BECAUSE WE, WE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, A DEFINITE NUMBER THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE FOR THIS. SO EITHER WAY, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK. AND EVEN IF WE SAY, HEY, THE ORIGINAL WAS 14, THAT NUMBER IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ADD OTHER 2% AND YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE BENEFITS. SO EITHER WAY, HE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND ADJUST IT. HE CAN'T JUST TELL US NOW WHAT IT IS. THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST SAYING IF WE IF WE WORK WITH FIVE JUST LIKE DOCTOR BRACY SAID, WHEN HE COME BACK, THEY CAN PUT WHAT WE CAN AFFORD, BASICALLY. YEAH. YOU AGAIN YOU CAN THE NUMBER WHAT WE'RE DOING WE JUST WE ASKED FOR FIVE. AND WE FIGURED OUT SEVEN. I SAID SEVEN. WE ALREADY KNOW THIS SEVEN. LET'S BE REALISTIC. I'M TRYING. SO I SAY FIVE. DOCTOR BRACY, WOULD YOU LIKE A SECOND WHEN THEY DISSEMINATED THE COUNT TO TO US. YOU DON'T REMEMBER? YOU GUYS GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO GET NUMBERS. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. YEAH, BUT IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE TIME. WE DON'T HAVE TIME. WE DON'T HAVE TIME. WHAT WE NEED. YEAH. IT'S UNFORTUNATE. OKAY. SO, MADAME CHAIR. YES, MA'AM.

SO JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE PROBABLY ALL GET ASKED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET SEASON LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, WITH STARBASE BEING ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GETTING CUT RIGHT OR SOMETHING THAT KEEPS COMING UP AS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ON

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WHEN WE LOOK AT STARBASE VERSUS EVERYTHING ELSE. THE REASON THAT STARBASE IS THE ONE THAT KIND OF GETS PUT UP IS BECAUSE WHAT WOULD BE OUR ANSWER THERE? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A DIRECT CORRELATION WITH OUR CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION. YES. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

MEANING IS WHAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE IS NOT TIED TO THE CURRICULUM THAT WILL HELP THE STUDENTS TOWARD THE SOL, RIGHT. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? NO, I MEAN, IT PROVIDES VALUABLE EXPERIENCES AND CRITICAL THINKING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT PREPARING THEM FOR THE ACTUAL STANDARDS OF LEARNING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE SOLS. GOTCHA. AND IF WE'RE I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MEASURED BY.

YEAH. RIGHT. THEN THAT'S THE REASON WHY STARBASE IS THE ONE READING. YES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. GET THAT OUT THERE PUBLICLY BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT NARRATIVES BEING SPENT. ABOUT THE SCIENCE COURSE HAVE INCREASED. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST SO I CAN HAVE SOME CLARITY WHERE WE ARE. BUT WHAT WHAT ARE WE ASKING OF STAFF? THE SUPERINTENDENTS PROPOSED BUDGET LEFT US WITH AN ADDITIONAL $2.5 MILLION. THAT'S THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET. ARE WE ASKING STAFF TO RECONSIDER OTHER THINGS? AND IF SO, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE PROCESS FOR THAT? SHUMATE, I HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. SO I KNOW THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR VOTING AND APPROVING THE BUDGET. RIGHT. IS THERE ANY PROVISIONS FOR US TO GIVE DOCTOR BRACEY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GOING WITH THE BUDGET? IS THERE ANY PROVISIONS IN THAT? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, SAY HE HE HE GETS THE NUMBERS TOMORROW, RIGHT. WE CAN'T MEET BECAUSE IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME. BUT IF WE ALLOW DOCTOR BRACEY THE AFFORDABILITY TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT, YES, THIS IS WHAT WE WHAT THEY WOULD AGREE ON BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE DO GIVE HIM WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN'T BY STATE CODE. THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET. RIGHT. I KNOW, BUT BUT YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO GIVE US PROVISIONS.

THERE'S NO PROVISIONS TO DO THAT. NOT NOT MY LAW DEGREE BUT. I'M JUST THINKING OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I'M NOT TRYING TO OVERCOMPLICATE. I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP US MAKE THINGS MAKE SENSE JUST IN CASE HE EXCUSE ME. IF HE DOES GET INTO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY DOCTOR BRACY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DETERMINE A BUDGET BECAUSE THE BRACY SALARY IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET.

ABOUT THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. THE BUDGET HAS TO BE. HAS TO BE BY CODE. HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. DO WE HAVE A DATE BY LAW THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT BY 30 DAYS AFTER THE STATE FUNDING? YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S NEXT WEEK. NEXT WEEK. AM I RIGHT? YES, SIR. NEXT WEEK.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. AND WE RECEIVED THE ESTIMATE ON JULY THE 2ND. THAT'S WHEN THE STATE DISSEMINATED THE ESTIMATE OF REVENUE. SO IT'S 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, WHICH MEANS THE CITY WOULD BE ON THAT SAME TIME FRAME, AM I CORRECT? BY AUGUST 2ND? YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHY THEY WERE TRYING TO GET IT ON TUESDAY. SO THEY WOULD HAVE AT THEIR NEXT MEETING AND HAVE IT DONE IN THAT STATUTORILY REQUIRED TIME. OKAY. I MEAN, ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK. YOU DON'T DO WHAT THEY CAN DO. OBVIOUSLY THIS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THEIR NUMBERS AND SEE WHAT. I'M SORRY. YES, MA'AM. MISS SESSOMS ALTERNATIVES DO WE HAVE. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT THEN WE'RE SCREWED POTENTIALLY WITH OUR. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT PROFESSIONAL TO JUST THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE, BUT WHAT ELSE DO WE DO IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS? WE CANNOT ASK. I SAY WE WE WE GET A REASONABLE NUMBER AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN'T GET THREE. MAYBE WE CAN GET TWO OF THIS, TWO OF THIS POSITION. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

JUST WE COME UP WITH A REASONABLE NUMBER AND ASK FOR IT, AND WE DEAL WITH WHAT WE CAN DEAL WITH. THAT TO BITE US IN THE TAIL. WE'RE JUST THROWING THEM. YEAH. RIGHT.

WHAT DO WE DO? I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ME. I'M ON A ONE VOTE.

WHAT DO WE. I'M ONLY ONE VOTE. DO WE JUST GO WITH THE ORIGINAL WITH THE ORIGINAL ASK? I JUST

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YESTERYEAR GAVE A NUMBER. WE PROBABLY CAN DO HALF. AND THEN WHEN THE STATE DID THE OFFSET BY SOME EXTRA FUNDS THAT CAME IN, AS YOU SEE, THE STATE JUST HAD A SURPLUS. SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN MORE. HOWEVER, LET'S NOT FORGET YESTERYEAR BECAUSE I HAVE MY THOUGHTS OF WHAT MAY BE APPROVED AND WHAT MAY NOT BE APPROVED, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD TOO. SO WE GOT TO DO AS WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THIS. AND THANK YOU, DOCTOR BRACY, THE STAFF, FOR LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS. AND BASED UPON WHAT ALL OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. BUT YES, THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. AND TO WHAT YOU SAID IN REGARD TO BEING A TAXPAYER AS WELL AS THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW, VOTED US IN, IT'S THEM BEING TAXPAYERS AS WELL. IF WE JUST HAND THEM AMOUNT, IT LOOKS BAD ON ALL OF US. OKAY. NOT NOT JUST ANY INDIVIDUAL LOOKS BAD ON ALL OF US. ALL OF US IN HERE ARE VERY CREDIBLE AT DOING THIS JOB. WE GOT TO MAKE THIS HARD DECISION. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I'M SO GLAD THAT THE RAISES ARE INCLUDED IN THERE. AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS FOR NOW AND GO WITH WHAT OUR STAFF DOCTOR, BRACE AND HIS STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED AND PRAYERFULLY AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY SOME MORE MONEY COMES FROM THE STATE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN EARLY JUMP AS A THOUGHT TO NEXT YEAR AS FAR AS STAFF WILL. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING BEFORE CALLING YOU. IF WE APPROVE A BUDGET FOR THE 2.5, WOULD IT BE A POSSIBILITY? WILL YOU ALL BE IN AGREEMENT IF MR. FALK WILL ALSO SEND COUNCIL OUR LIST OF REQUESTS? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. WITH THE AMOUNTS. YES. WITH THEM? YES.

BUT THEY. THEY THAT EARLIER. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. I MEAN, I WAS TALKING YOU SAID. I SAID SEND THE LIST WITH THE BUDGET. NO, NO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT. BUT SEND THE AMOUNTS BECAUSE YOU GOT TO UPDATE THE AMOUNTS THAT THEY'RE NOT THE AMOUNTS IN THE LIST. IF HE WAS ABLE TO UPDATE THE AMOUNTS YOU KNOW TO SEND THE LIST WITH THAT WITH OUR APPROVED BUDGET REQUEST, THEY CAN THEY CAN AMEND IT AND MAKE WHATEVER THEY WANT. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, BUT WE WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE A BUDGET. OKAY. TONIGHT. DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT, BUT I THINK THAT MOVES THE BUS. I GUESS, IS THE MESSENGER THAT.

[01:30:04]

YEAH. I'M. I'M SAYING THAT I'M GLAD WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING SO THAT THEY CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR DEFICITS ARE, WHAT WE REALLY NEED. AND ALSO THEN WHEN WE DO THIS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL THEN HAS THE OPTION TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL AMEND THIS BUDGET AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE $1 MILLION FOR STAR BASE, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE 2 MILLION FOR THE RAISE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO APPROPRIATE IT FOR. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO GIVE US A POT OF MONEY, AND YOU JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT. OKAY. YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND IT. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. SOMEBODY HANG UP BEFORE YOU. OH. YOU DID? WHO ELSE? YES. OH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU WHEN WHEN THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU SAID THEY CAN JUST DO LIKE THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS. WHEN I HAD SAID BREAK DOWN THAT LIST AND THEY CAN JUST DO THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT AMENDMENT ANYWAY, RIGHT? YEAH. SO WHEN MR. FOX IN THE LIST, HE WOULD ALSO STILL BE CALCULATING THE SALARIES PLUS THE BENEFITS ON THOSE. SO HE STILL WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CALCULATE ALL THE SALARIES, BENEFITS FOR ALL THE POSITIONS.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE LIST THAT WE ACTUALLY SAW. HE GOT TO PUT ALL OF THAT IN THERE.

RIGHT. OKAY. GOTCHA. THIS IS JUST ALLEVIATING US HAVING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND VOTE ON IT AGAIN. YEAH. DOING IT THIS WAY. SO I WAS JUST MAKING SURE. SO HE GOT TO GET THE THE ACTUAL NUMBER. OH. OH. AND HOPEFULLY IN ADDITION TO THE LIST THAT WOULD BE SENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL LISTEN OR ARE LISTENING TO OUR MEETING AND HOPEFULLY CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS IN REGARD TO THAT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO LISTEN. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET. I GOT TWO MORE SLIDES ON THIS. OH SORRY. OH WE WON'T EVEN DONE. NO WE AIN'T DONE. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT THIS SEPARATELY BECAUSE IT IS BUDGET BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO HAD A MEETING. SEVERAL OF US HAD A MEETING WITH SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER COLONEL WATERS AND HIS TEAM. THEY WERE MADE AWARE LAST WEEK THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE FUNDED FOR THE FIFTH YEAR OF OUR OUR PROGRAM. IN THE PAST, THAT FUNDING HAD FUNDED 11 SROS FOR THE DIVISION. SO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS AGREED TO FUND SIX SROS, AM I RIGHT? SIX FOR OUR SECONDARY SCHOOL. BUT THAT LEAVES US FIVE SHORT. SO THE ESTIMATE FOR THOSE FIVE IS ABOUT $600,000. OH MY GOSH. SO JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP FOR THAT IS. I WOULD IMAGINE THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T KNOW. NO, BECAUSE THAT'S FUNDING THAT WILL GO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHEN TECHNICALLY COME TO US. BUT IT WOULD BE FOR SCHOOL RELATED PROGRAM. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. NEXT STEPS. DON'T KNOW. I YIELD. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND WE THEN HAVE TO ADD THIS TO THE BUDGET REQUEST. MEANING WE DON'T HAVE IT OR I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHEN IS THE FUNDING RUN OUT? IS IT ALREADY GONE? ALREADY GONE. OKAY. SO AS OF AS OF FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, WE'RE GOING TO BE FIVE SHORT. WE DON'T FUND IT. YES, SIR. WHAT? DID WE JUST FIND THIS OUT? YEAH. LAST WEEK, JULY 14TH. OH, WOW.

SO THANK YOU CHAIR. WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENTS STATE REQUIREMENT FOR SROS PER SCHOOL OR THEIR RECOMMENDATION PER SCHOOL. MIDDLE AND HIGH. MIDDLE AND HIGH. AND WE WE DID PUT ONE IN ELEMENTARY. RIGHT. WE'VE EXPANDED IT. YES. HOW MANY? WE HAD 1 OR 2 IN ELEMENTARY. OR DID WE DO IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS? WE DECIDED WHICH SCHOOLS GOT A PERMANENT SRO. AND THEN THEY FLOAT SO THAT THE ENTIRE DIVISION IS COVERED. BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STATE IS IN MIDDLE, AND HIGH IS ONE IN EACH MIDDLE AND HIGH AND ELEMENTARY WAS IT WAS IT 4 OR 5? I CAN'T REMEMBER, WAS IT FOUR? I THINK WE HAD FIVE IN THE DIVISION. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO

[01:35:01]

FIVE WOULD BE THOSE THAT WERE IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LAST YEAR. OKAY. BUT THAT'S NOT THE REQUIREMENT. CORRECT. SAFETY. YEAH, RIGHT. I GOTTA BE BRINGING GUNS NOT TO WALK. SO DON'T BE. YEAH. NO, NO, BECAUSE WE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T PAY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THE CITY HAS TO PAY THEM. OKAY. THIS IS MORE OF A OF A NOTIFICATION AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT ON THAT LETTER.

IT HAS. DOCTOR EXCUSE ME, MR. CARTER AT CC. SO WE ASSUME THAT THAT LETTER WAS SENT TO MR. CARTER'S OFFICE AS WELL. DON'T KNOW. Y'ALL HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATION. OKAY. SO WE BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT OUR BUDGET. WE COULDN'T ADD IT TO OUR BUDGET, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THERE'S A DEFICIT FOR SROS. THROUGH NO FAULT OF ANYBODY'S. BUT WE ADDED OUR BUDGET. WHAT DID WE DO? GIVE IT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHY I SAID, I DON'T KNOW. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RIGHT. BECAUSE WE DON'T FUND THEM NOW. RIGHT NOW. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE WERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION SLIDE. SO I GUESS I GUESS JUST JUST SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT IS YOUR NEXT MOVE AS A STAFF OR WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE REACHING OUT TO. CITY OR WE LEADING UP TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? HOW WE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SEND THIS.

WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY ASK FOR SUPPORT. I KNOW FROM MY STANDPOINT, I'M JUST US. YEAH.

WELL, JUST SEND IT OVER. YEAH. WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE. AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO SEND THIS IN AS A REQUEST TO PLEASE FUND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AT THE AMOUNT THAT'S THAT WAS LISTED, I THINK ABOUT 600. YES, SIR. 600,000. 600,000. OKAY. HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT US. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE JUST OPEN RIGHT NOW. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE BAD NEWS? NO, SIR, I DON'T. ALL RIGHT. WOW. SO, JUST SO, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN WE DO VOTE ON THIS REVISED BUDGET ON 93.4, WE ARE VOTING ON THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET. OF THE 2.5 MILLION PLUS.

MR. FALK WILL SEND OUR LIST OF NEEDS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR POSSIBLE AMENDMENT CAN BE DONE.

[3.2 (Discussion) Adoption of a Resolution Supporting a Referendum on the 1% Local Option Sales and Use Tax]

[3.3 (Discussion) Adoption of a Resolution to Auction Surplus Buses and Vehicles]

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BUSSES ARE ABOUT 15 UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT BEFORE VEHICLES COULD BE 1015 DEPENDING ON THE VEHICLE. BUT MOST OF THESE ARE WELL BEYOND THAT 15 YEAR THRESHOLD. THERE ARE A FEW ON HERE THAT ARE 12 OR 13, 2016 UP THERE. THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, THERE ARE A FEW, BUT AGAIN, IT PROBABLY WAS SOMETHING SPECIFIC WITH THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE AND I WANT TO CAVEAT IT. THERE'S ONE VEHICLE ON HERE THAT WE'RE DONATING TO SAFETY TOWN. THEY ASKED FOR A NEW BUS. SO WE'RE GIVING THEM ONE OF THE OLDER BUSSES THAT WE HAVE TO PUT AT SAFETY TOWN, BUT THAT'S GOING TO THE CITY. SO HOW DID THAT SAFETY TOWN DONATION HAPPEN? WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONATED YET. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR THAT PRICE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE THAT WE SOLD. OKAY. BUT THEY WANTED ONE TO BE PLACED AT SAFETY TOWN TO REPLACE THE OLD ONE THAT IS THERE. THE CITY? YES. SO IT WOULD WENT TO THE CITY AND NO MATTER WHAT. OKAY.

SO THE CITY HAD, I GUESS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED, HOW CAN WE DONATE VEHICLES? SO HOW DID THAT WHOLE SAFETY TOWN DONATION COME ABOUT? CONVERSATION WITH I CAN'T THINK OF THE. YEAH. BRUCE. BRUCE. BRUCE MADE A REQUEST, A REQUEST. SO IN OUR RESOLUTION, WE PUT IN THAT ONE OF THOSE BUSSES GOES TO SAFETY TOWN SO WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION AND THE RESOLUTION FOR OUR BUSSES TO GO TO ORGANIZATIONS BEFORE WE SEND IT UP TO THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. I THINK IN THAT CASE, HE SPECIFICALLY MADE A REQUEST TO US FOR ONCE THIS BUS IS TURNED BACK TO THE CITY, IF THEY COULD HAVE ONE TO GO TO SAFETY TOWN. OKAY. SO THAT. SO WE CAN SAY SUCH AND SUCH. IT STILL WAS TURNED BACK TO THE CITY. ULTIMATELY, IT GOES TO THE CITY. RIGHT. BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE FINE WITH IT. BUT THE CITY HAS TO HAS THE FINAL WORD WHETHER OR NOT IT GOES. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. SO WE AS A BOARD CAN SAY THIS ALONG WITH SAFETY TOWN, THIS ORGANIZATION, WE WE WANT POSSIBLY Y'ALL HAVE THE FINAL SAY, BUT THIS ORGANIZATION, WE WANT Y'ALL TO DONATE A BUS TO THIS ORGANIZATION JUST LIKE THE SAFETY TOWN SITUATION, RIGHT? NO. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? BUT THE CITY DECIDED TO GET A SAFETY TOWN, RIGHT? AM I MAKING THE CITY RIGHT? YES. YES. THE CITY DECIDED TO GIVE IT BACK TO. WE GIVE IT TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY KEEPS THE BUS, RIGHT.

STACY TOWN RUNS AS A NONPROFIT STILL OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO WE IN OUR RESOLUTION ARE PUTTING THAT WE'RE DONATING TO SAFETY TOWN, WHICH IS A CITY ENTITY, BUT IT'S THERE IS A STANDALONE NONPROFIT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE STILL PUTTING IT OUT THERE. WE'RE DONATING THE BUS AND THE RESOLUTION, RIGHT? I DON'T REMEMBER RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION FOR THAT. I DON'T SEE THAT. THAT'S NO, I'M TRYING TO ASK ARE YOU SAYING ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. ARE YOU SAYING WE DID THAT? NO, I'M SAYING THAT'S THAT'S I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT WE'RE SENDING IT UP AND SAYING THAT ONE OF OUR BUSSES IS GOING TO SAFETY TOWN. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? BECAUSE OVERALL, WE'RE APPROVING THAT ONE OF OUR BUSSES THAT GOES BACK TO THE CITY IS GOING TO SAFETY TOWN. ULTIMATELY. IT'S YEAH, WE'RE BASICALLY WE

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CAN WE GET CLARITY? JUST ASK THE CITY OF WHAT IS THE PROCESS? CAN WE CAN I MEAN, CAN WE GET A BOARD CONSENSUS TO DELAY VOTING? BECAUSE IF WE GOT 41 BUSSES AND WE CAN DONATE THEM, LIKE NOT ALL, NOT ALL OF THEM. NO, NO, NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS RIGHT HERE ON PAGE TWO OF THREE, IT SAYS THE ONE BUS ABOVE WILL BE DONATED TO SAFETY TOWN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES OF SCHOOL BOARD POLICY. SO WE ARE IN WHAT WAS WE ARE. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. WE ARE APPROVING IT BASED ON OUR PARTICULAR POLICY IS THAT GUIDELINES OF SCHOOL BOARD POLICY. THE POLICY I MEAN, I STILL THINK YOU ALL WANT TO GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM CITY BECAUSE I THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO GET THEIR PROPERTY BACK. YEAH, YEAH. WE CAN'T DONATE PROPERTY. I MEAN, BUSSES, OTHER THINGS. THERE'S A CLAUSE IN D N ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, HARDWARE, SOFTWARE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A BUS, YOU CAN'T DONATE IT ACTUALLY TO AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION UNLESS YOU WOULD GET SOME AUTHORIZATION OF THAT. RIGHT. SO THIS WOULD GET CLARITY AND IF POSSIBLE, ALLOW ANOTHER ORGANIZATION WHO MAY NEED A BUS TO SEND A LETTER TO THE CITY AND WE CAN UPDATE THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT IF ANOTHER ORGANIZATION NEEDS A BUS, LIKE WITH SAFETY TOWN, IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE DONATING TO SAFETY TOWN BASED ON POLICY B, IN WHICH I'M GOING TO LOOK UP IN A SECOND. YEAH, LOOK THAT UP. Y'ALL WANT ME TO BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TINY HOMES AROUND HERE? IT'S VAGUE. IT'S VAGUE. WE WON'T READ IT. WELL, AGAIN, I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO CHECK WITH THE CITY AND GET CLARITY ON THAT. IF YOU ALL DO, IF Y'ALL WANT TO DELAY THE VOTE, I DON'T KNOW. DO WE HAVE A DEADLINE? I THINK WE HAVE TO. THE AUCTION IS SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST THE 8TH. OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS ALSO DELAYED THE SAFETY. AND SO ALL OF THOSE BUSSES WOULD REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE UNTIL THE NEXT AUCTION, UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR. UNTIL THE NEXT AUCTION. I MEAN, BUT WE GOT 40 BUSSES LIKE. I MEAN, CAN WE AMEND IT WITH PUTTING SOMETHING IN IT AS FAR AS GETTING APPROVAL FROM THE CITY AFTER APPROVAL FROM THE CITY FOR THE DONATION, WE GOT A RETREAT AUGUST 1ST. WE DO. WE CAN PUT IT ON THE RETREAT. RIGHT, CHAIR.

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SO STAFF IS GOING TO CHECK GET CLARITY ON THAT AND ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. SO WE'RE GOING TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO REMOVE AGENDA ITEM 3.6. MADAM CLERK I NEED A MOTION A MOTION TO REMOVE TO REMOVE. 3.6. MOTION. MOTION TO REMOVE. CAN SOMEBODY DO IT. BECAUSE I REALLY DIDN'T GIVE MYSELF MOVE FOR APPROVAL. NO, IT'S NOT MOTION. WE NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE AGENDA ITEM 3.6. I MAKE A MOTION TO. THANK YOU JACKSON. 3.6 YOU HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION MADE BY MISS DOCTOR WALKER, SECOND BY MISS BETRAYAL. YES. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. SO IN THAT TIME FRAME, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE BEFORE THE BOARD RETREAT ABOUT WHAT THE CITY HAS STATED SO THAT WE'RE INFORMED BEFORE AUGUST 1ST? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. MISS ATKINSON. YES, MISS BOONE. YES, DOCTOR. COTTON.

YES. MISS FUTRELL. YES. MISS MCSWAIN. YES. MISS SESSOMS. YES. MISS SHOEMAKE. YES. DOCTOR WALKER. YES. DOCTOR. PATTILLO. YES. THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD. AGENDA

[3.4 (Roll-Call Vote) Consideration of FY 2026-2027 Revised Operating Budget]

ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. MOTION. MISS SHOEMAKE. SECOND BY MISS FUTURO. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE. ROLL CALL. VOTE. MADAM CLERK, MISS ATKINSON. YES. MISS. SORRY. MISS SHEETS. NO. MRS. BOONE.

YES, DOCTOR. COTTON. YES. MISS. FUTRELL. YES. MISS. MCSWAIN. YES. MISS SESSOMS. YES. MISS SHOEMAKE. YES. DOCTOR WALKER. YES. DOCTOR. PATTILLO. YES, THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU SO

[3.5 (Roll-Call Vote) Adoption of a Resolution Supporting a Referendum on the 1% Local Option Sales and Use Tax]

MISS ATKINSON. YES, MISS. BOONE. YES, DOCTOR. COTTON. YES. MISS FUTRELL. YES. MISS MCSWAIN. YES.

MISS SESSOMS. YES. MISS SHOEMAKE. YES. DOCTOR WALKER. YES. DOCTOR. PATTILLO. YES, OUR VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGENDA ITEM 3.7 IS AN UPDATE ON THE PACE CENTER. I'M GOING TO ASK DOCTOR BRACY IF HE WILL COME FORWARD TO LEAD US IN THIS. CAN WE TAKE A RISK? I CAN I CAN TAKE A BREAK. OKAY. BEFORE HE COMES WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE THE ITEM IS I PAY CR

[3.7 PACE Update]

SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE THE PACE CENTER WAS WAS SET TO OPEN IN AUGUST OF 24. BUT NOW, AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE DELAYS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, IT WILL NOW OPEN ON MONDAY, JANUARY 25TH, THE FIRST DAY OF THE SECOND SEMESTER FOR THE 2627 SCHOOL YEAR. I KNOW THAT WE WE WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THE OPENING. WE WERE EAGERLY AWAITING. ANTICIPATING FOR MONDAY, AUGUST 24TH, BUT DUE TO SOME SOME SOME ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP THAT WILL NO LONGER BE THE DATE. SO NOW WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, OF COURSE, WHAT CAUSED THE DELAY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT CAUSED THE DELAY, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU ALL KNOW. THE SCHOOL DIVISION. WE DON'T MANAGE OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING. SO WE DON'T CONTROL ANY OF THAT. THE SCHEDULING OR HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER ANY OF THE PROJECTS. AND THAT'S NOT JUST PARTICULARLY FOR THIS PACE. THAT'S FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IS THE CITY CITY'S CONTROLLED IT. SO PART OF OUR RELATIONSHIP, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, CITY

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VENDORS, OUR VENDORS. NOW KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE OUR CONTRACTS, OUR VENDORS. SO THEY SAY, YEP, Y'ALL GOT GOOD REPUTATION WITH US. WE'LL DO IT. VENDORS STARTED, DID THE WORK.

SO BACK IN, IN APRIL, WE HAD A LIAISON MEETING. AND WE AT THAT POINT, THE CITY HAD NOT ISSUED THOSE CONTRACTS. SO WE BROUGHT IT UP IN THE LIAISON MEETING THAT WAS ATTENDED BY PEOPLE FROM OUR SCHOOL BOARD. DOCTOR BRACEY, MYSELF, MR. CARTER AND TWO CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES. THEY WERE TOLD AT THAT POINT THAT THE CITY HAD NOT DONE THE 90%, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD LOOK INTO THAT MATTER AT THE TIME. THAT WAS APRIL, I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL 21ST. BUT DON'T QUOTE MY DATE. SO BACK APRIL, MAY GOES THROUGH. WE GO.

WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER UPDATE WITH THE CITY'S ENGINEER, REGULAR STAFF. WE ASK, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE POS FOR THE VENDORS? BECAUSE IN ALL THIS TIME THE VENDORS WERE SENDING US EMAILS SAYING, HEY, YOU SENT US 10%. WHERE'S THE 90? WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO KEEP DOING WORK IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDER FOR THE 90. WE CAN'T ORDER MATERIALS. WE DON'T HAVE THE 90.

SO WE SENT THOSE EMAILS TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? WE DON'T HAVE A POA YET.

THEY DON'T HAVE A POA. ANYTHING WE CAN DO. YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? ULTIMATELY, THE VENDORS CONTINUED TO SEND THESE EMAILS AND WE ARE FRUSTRATED. I'M GONNA BE HONEST, BECAUSE WE HAD DONE WHAT WE SAID IN GOOD FAITH. REMEMBER, THE MONEY SITS ON THE CITY SIDE. WE USE SCHOOL DIVISION MONEY IN A IN A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO START THIS PROCESS. SO WE OUT OF 10%, UNTIL WE GET THAT MONEY BACK, WE CONTINUE TO BE TOLD THE POS WERE GOING TO BE ISSUED SOON.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE TOLD THAT THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE COMING. AT THAT SAME TIME IN JUNE. NOW THIS IS JUNE. I SAID MARCH 31ST. THIS IS JUNE. WE STILL DON'T HAVE 90% POS. AT THE SAME TIME, WE FOUND THE DOMINION ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. SO NOW

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THE 10% ALREADY PAID WHAT WE NEEDED TO PAY, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN REIMBURSED FOR THAT YET.

NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY REIMBURSEMENT PAPERWORK, BUT THE POINT IS WE'VE ALREADY PAID OUR 10%. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THE VENDORS BECAUSE THE ONE THING THAT'S TOUCHING FOR US IS WE DON'T WANT OUR VENDORS TO GET UPSET WITH US AND STOP PROVIDING SERVICES BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE MORE WORK, AND THE VENDORS HAVE DONE MORE THAN THE 10%. SO THAT'S KIND OF CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF THE POA PROCESS. IT WASN'T A ONE DAY, IT WASN'T A ONE MEETING CONVERSATION. THIS WAS A REQUEST FROM THE CITY. WE HONORED IT. AND THEY DID NOT GO THROUGH WITH THEIR HONORING OF WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO. SO FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONTRACT, JUST TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE OF THE RFP AND THE PROCESS, THE CITY ISSUED AN RFP ON OCTOBER 30TH 22, 2024. THEY MADE A SELECTION OF A VENDOR ON DECEMBER 19TH OF 2024. IT TOOK A MONTH LATER TO ISSUE A NOTICE OF AWARD ON JANUARY 22ND, 2025.

HOWEVER, THERE WERE ANOTHER FIVE MONTHS THAT WENT BY BEFORE NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS GIVEN TO THE VENDOR. THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS GIVEN ON JUNE 18TH, 2025 UNTIL SIGNED EXECUTED CONTRACT WAS DONE. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS AS TO WHAT WAS THE DELAY, BUT IT WAS ABOUT FIVE MONTHS BEFORE THEY COULD GET STARTED ON CONSTRUCTION OR PRE-CONSTRUCTION IN THE PROJECT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A DELAY IN A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, PRICES GO UP. SO WE LOST TIME IN THAT CONTRACTING TIME FRAME. YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE HAD SOME TIME AND KNEW OF THINGS EARLIER, MAYBE THE DOMINION ELECTRICAL SITUATION COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENTLY. AND THEN I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGO FROM ONE OF THE VENDORS THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE 90%, AND THEY THREATENED TO THREATEN NOT ONLY US, BUT THE CITY. HEY, LOOK, WE'VE ORDERED THIS EQUIPMENT. YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR IT. BUT IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING QUICKLY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS EQUIPMENT AND USE IT ON ANOTHER JOB. AND WHEN WE REORDER IT, THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP. SO WHAT WE QUOTED, YOU WILL NOT BE THE SAME PRICE.

AND WE HAVE THAT IN EMAIL. AND THAT WAS SENT TO THE CITY ENGINEER FOR HIS REVIEW TO LET HIM KNOW, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS GETTING VERY VOLATILE. THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM, COULD BE A OVERRUN OR IT COULD COST US A TIME DELAY. SO THAT'S THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND THOSE COST ITEMS. AND SO AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IN THIS PROCESS. THERE HAVE BEEN CERTAIN DELAYS IN TERMS OF IN THE WORK. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR INTERNAL TEAM THAT MEETS MONTHLY. THERE HAS BEEN SOME DISCUSSION THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT CHANGE ORDERS IN TERMS OF AND THE NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE CHANGE ORDERS CAUSING THE DELAY. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN. 21 CHANGE ORDERS. THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS BECAUSE WE DESIGN THIS PROJECT WITH MOSLEY, THE ARCHITECTS. WHEN THE PRINCIPAL WAS HIRED, WE WOULD NOT DARE DO A PROJECT WITHOUT PRINCIPAL INPUT. THE PRINCIPAL HAS BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND THE PRINCIPAL REVIEWED THE PLANS AND CAME TO US EARLY ON THE OUTSET OF THIS PROJECT TO SAY, HEY, CAN THESE THINGS BE DONE? CAN WE HAVE THIS? CAN THIS ROOM BE CHANGED IN TERMS OF. AND WE DID THOSE AT THE ONSET OF THE PROJECT, NOT IN THE MIDDLE, NOT IN THE END. IN TERMS OF WE WERE TOLD SPECIFICALLY, AS DOCTOR BRYSON SAID, THIS IS A CITY PROJECT. THE CITY MANAGER SIGNS OFF ON ALL ALL CHANGE ORDERS. AND TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN THREE CHANGE ORDERS. SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE WAS A BUNDLE OF ITEMS, 18, 15, 16 ITEMS IN ONE CHANGE ORDER THAT

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SO TO POWER EVERYTHING IN THE BUILDING. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS IS A HIGH TECH, HIGH POWER FACILITY IN TERMS OF EVEN AS OF TODAY, WE WERE TOLD LAST WEEK THAT THE TRANSFORMER WOULD BE INSTALLED. TODAY WE HAVE EMAIL COMMUNICATION THAT I SENT OUT TO THE TEAM TODAY. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT DID NOT OCCUR BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER IN TERMS OF. SO THERE WAS NO WORK DONE TODAY OVER ON SITE IN TERMS OF WITH DOMINION, WE WERE TOLD IN COMMUNICATION TODAY IT COULD TAKE PLACE ANY DAY NEXT WEEK, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE IN TERMS OF IN WHICH THAT WORK WILL TAKE PLACE. AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING DILIGENTLY ON SITE IN TERMS OF ALMOST DAILY IN TERMS OF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT MOVES ALONG. ACCORDING TO THE NEW. DATE FOR OPENING. ALL RIGHT. AND I'LL I'LL ADD TO THAT TOO. SO YES, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DISAPPOINTED WITH WITHIN THE PROCESS. HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE A WASH. YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SHARED COMMUNICATION WITH OUR FAMILIES, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PACE CENTERS OPENING THIS YEAR, ALBEIT A LITTLE LATER THAN WE PLANNED.

YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOL COUNSELORS RIGHT NOW ARE RESCHEDULING STUDENTS FOR THE FALL, BUT THEY WILL STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EARN INDUSTRY CREDENTIALS. AND THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON SUMMER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR FOR OUR STUDENTS TO EARN OTHER CREDENTIALS AS WELL. SO IN CONCLUSION, I WANT TO SAY THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING AND HAS REQUIRED HOURS AND HOURS OF COORDINATION BETWEEN OUR STAFF, OUR ARCHITECTURAL FIRM, OUR CONSTRUCTION FIRM, CONSULTANTS, AND MANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES. OUR TEAM HAS DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ENSURE THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD BE A SHINING ADDITION TO OUR SCHOOL DIVISION AND OUR CITY. THIS IS WHY WE FELT SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE NEED TO COME OUT AND OPENLY SHARE WHY OUR PACE WOULDN'T BE OPEN ON TIME IN THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUSH THIS PROCESS NOW. WE'RE GOING TO COUNT DOWN TO JANUARY 25TH WITH EXCITEMENT AND MUCH ANTICIPATION, AND WE KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE A GREAT DAY IN PORTSMOUTH WHEN WE WELCOME OUR FIRST STUDENTS. YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY, MATTHEW? I'LL START WITH MISS SHUMATE, MR. ATKINSON. I'LL BE VERY QUICK. SO BY SEPTEMBER, SAY LIKE THE END OF SEPTEMBER, IF WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A GOOD WAYS THROUGH THE PROJECT, CAN WE JUST COME TOGETHER AND SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT NEXT FISCAL YEAR? WELL, NOT FISCAL YEAR. NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING NO, NO, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU MONTHLY UPDATES. OKAY. AT THE BOARD MEETING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT CIP WITH THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. WELL, THEY GIVE THE REPORT EVERY MONTH, SO PACE WILL BE PART OF IT. SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THOSE MEETINGS, DOCTOR COTTON, DOCTOR PATTILLO WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE AT THAT TIME IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AND IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU NEED FROM US AT THAT TIME, WE'LL BE THERE TO SHARE IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S AND, BUT I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, WE SEE THAT THINGS ARE STILL NOT MOVING AT THE PACE THEY SHOULD, OF COURSE, WE WILL REGROUP EARLY TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS AT THAT POINT. CAN WE GO BACK? THANK YOU. CHAIR, CAN WE GO BACK THREE SLIDES, PLEASE? I THINK IT WAS THE SLIDE TO WHERE IT WAS SAYING THERE WAS A GAP IN CONTACT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK. BUT. CONTRACTOR IS

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ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE ALL OF THAT DOCUMENTATION AND COMMUNICATION. YES, WE HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING.

THIS IS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE LIAISONS HAVE. WE HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH OUR TEAM AND THE CIP DISCUSSING CIP PROJECTS. PACE IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, AND WE ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROGRESS OR LACK THEREOF. SO THAT'S ALWAYS AND I AND I ATTEND THOSE BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED JUST TO SEE WHERE WE ARE THROUGHOUT THE DIVISION WITH ALL OF OUR CIP PROJECTS. SO I ATTEND THAT ONE WITH DOCTOR SIMMONS, HIS TEAM, AND THE CITY ENGINEER, AND THAT'S ALWAYS AN AGENDA ITEM, ALWAYS A DISCUSSION. AND EVEN FROM THAT MEETING SPILLS OVER INTO THE LIAISON MEETING. THEY HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA THERE. WE TALK ABOUT IT THERE. WE'RE TOLD WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET THINGS IN PLACE. WE COME BACK THE NEXT MONTH. WE'RE STILL AT THE SAME PLACE. AND EITHER ONE OF LIAISON MEMBERS CAN CAN ATTEST TO THAT. SO WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE FROM JANUARY TO JUNE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE PACE CENTER? WELL, IT'S ALWAYS A MORE OF A WELL, LET ME LET ME LET'S LET'S SEE WHAT WHAT'S GOING LET ME SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET GOING. AND THE LIAISON MEETINGS. THE CITY MANAGER WILL ALWAYS SAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY AND AND TRY TO GET THIS DONE. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS INFORMATION WAS NEEDED. AND TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT, I WANT TO SAY COUNCILMAN HUGO LAST TIME SAID THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE. IS THAT CORRECT, THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET BACK WITH US? YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT THE MAY 27TH MEETING MAY. AND IT WAS IN THAT MEETING HE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT AN MOU SO THAT WE CAN BE IN CONTROL OF OUR OWN CIP PROJECTS, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS SUCH A LONG TIME AS WELL. MISS. THANK YOU. WITH. I KNOW THAT THE GUIDANCE COUNSELORS ARE REPURPOSING THE CHILDREN'S LIKE SCHEDULE, SO THEY'RE ON TOP OF THAT ALREADY. YES. AS FAR AS THE STAFF THAT HAVE ALREADY SIGNED CONTRACTS, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEM? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WE HIRED MAJORITY OF THE STAFF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, THIS PAST SCHOOL YEAR ANYWAY.

SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON CURRICULUM AND SO FORTH TO GET PREPPED, TO GET PREPPED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. SO WHAT THEY'LL DO NOW, THEY WILL. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT AS EQUIPMENT, ONCE WE GET THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND WE CAN START BRINGING EQUIPMENT IN, THEY CAN START SETTING UP THEIR ROOMS, THEY CAN START TESTING THE MACHINERY THAT THEY HAVE IN SOME OF THE HIGH TECH AREAS, AND JUST GOING THROUGH ALL OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE READY FOR THE JANUARY DATE OF OPENING. SO THEY WILL THEY'VE GOT PLENTY TO DO. THANK YOU. MISS MCSWAIN. FIRST OF ALL, YOU SAY YOU HAVE MORE DOCUMENTATION SO ALL THAT CAN BE FOR YOU, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THEM. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN GET COPIES OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN ON OUR, OUR END.

AND SO WE CLEARLY SEE THAT THAT WASN'T OUR END. AND WE'RE NOT POINTING FINGERS, NO NEED TO POINT FINGERS BECAUSE BASICALLY THE ONLY ONES THAT'S REALLY LOSING ARE OUR STUDENTS. AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE TAKE PICTURES AND, AND SAY THAT WE LOVE THEM AND WE PROUD OF THEM.

AND THEN WE DON'T SET THEM AS A PRIORITY. I, I FAIL TO BELIEVE THAT YOUR PRIORITY WHEN I DON'T MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE AVENUE TO SUCCEED IN LIFE. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE. WE SEE WHAT HAPPENED. I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THE. I THINK THAT THE NEXT PICTURE THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN IS AFTER THE PAY SCHOOL IS READY TO GO. THAT'S JUST MY

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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IN REFERENCE TO THE PRESENTATION BEING MADE? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, CHAIR, BUT I JUST WANT TO JUST PUBLICLY SAY, I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST OFFER KUDOS TO YOU. WHEN WE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE THE STAFF FOR THE SCHOOL AND THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU MADE TO HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO INCLUDE SALARIES AT THAT TIME, SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT TO BE ONE OF THOSE BARRIERS. NOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET. SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT PUBLICLY. WE ALL VOTED ON IT. BUT TO BRING THAT TO MAKE A POINT TO HIRE THE STAFF, I THINK THAT WAS HUGE. SO THANK YOU. JUST COMMENT MORE OF A COMMENT, BUT THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE PUT YOUR HAND AND YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR EVERYTHING INTO THIS PROJECT. JUST TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WORKING WITH THE TECH OPS COMMITTEE. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT CERTAIN CHECKS DON'T MAKE IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO JUST ONE RANDOM CHURCH AND ACADEMY. ROOF WAS LEAKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

STAFF MEMBERS WERE CALLING AND SAYING, HEY, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FIX THE ROOF? YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THEY GOT A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF THAT. SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH US DEALING WITH A BIGGER PROJECT, THIS IS A HOT TOPIC. THIS IS SOMETHING BIG IN THE COMMUNITY THAT OUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, WHOEVER WILL BE BENEFITING FROM. SO. IT NOT HAPPENING ON TIME. IT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO ME, NOT TO OUR IS OUR BLAME, YOU KNOW, BUT THE THING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME THAT YOU SAID, MR. FOGG, HE SAID, EVEN UP TO THIS DATE, YOU STILL HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. AND WE'VE GIVEN. I'M SAYING US AS WPS GIVEN WIGGLE ROOM WITH A NEW DATE, BUT WE'RE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC AND VIDEOS AND THINGS BEING PUT OUT THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE 100% WITH IT. THIS, THIS MAKES ME QUESTION A LOT OF THINGS THAT I'M A QUESTION OUTSIDE THIS MEETING. IT'S CALLED GASLIGHTING. AND IT HURTS NOBODY BUT THE CHILDREN. AND I HAVE THOSE ONES WHO ARE SENIORS IN MIND THAT ARE NOT COLLEGE BOUND. YEAH. BUT WHAT DO WE DO? WE DON'T STROKE THE CHECKS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. BUT THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS, I MISS WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TRANSPARENCY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I HONESTLY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE DO A GOOD JOB WITH THAT ALL THE TIME, BUT I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THERE'S A LATE START, BUT AS I ALWAYS SAY, A DELAY IS NOT A DENIAL. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO JANUARY AGAIN. BUT IF WE FORESEE ANY ISSUES COMING UP THAT IT WILL HAVE A LATER START. I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH INFORMING THEM IN ADVANCE A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL DID WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO IN TERMS OF GETTING THE NOTIFICATION OUT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. IT'S NOT ABOUT PAY CENTER, BUT I SEE WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASE ORDERS, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT? WHAT IS THE LATEST? WE'RE NOT CONTROLLED BY CIPO. SO THAT'S THE ANSWER.

SIMILAR. YEAH. SIMILAR SITUATION. CIP. ONE OF QUITE A FEW. DOCTOR WALKER. I'M SORRY.

SO IF THERE IS NO UPDATE ON I SEE NORCOM THEN I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOMECOMING CAN BE

[02:25:02]

AND CHANGES THE WHOLE CHANGES THEIR SCHEDULING. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF IT. SO HOW WOULD HOW WOULD THAT WORK? BECAUSE I KNOW FOR ME, I KNOW THE TRACK IS HORRIBLE. THE FOOTBALL FIELD IS IN GREAT CONDITION, BUT I CAN'T SEE NO TRACK MEETS HAPPENING.

BUT I, I CAN'T SEE IF THERE'S NO CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, GAMES BEING PLAYED ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. AND IF NOT, IF IT'S TOO LATE FOR SCHEDULING, YOU KNOW, GOD SAVE. I SEE NORCOM HOMECOMING THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN THAT. TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, COMMUNICATION THAT I RECEIVED, WE'RE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. THE PROJECT HAS BEEN AWARDED TO A CONTRACTOR, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SIGNED, EXECUTED CONTRACT FOR ANY OF THE WORK TO BEGIN. SO WE'RE STILL WAITING. AS DOCTOR BRYSON SAID, WE MEET MONTHLY IN TERMS OF THAT'S ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. WHAT I DO IS SEND A REPORT OR INQUIRY TO THE CITY MANAGER OF ALL OF OUR CIP PROJECTS AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT HE'S NOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD IN TERMS OF RESPONDING TO WHAT WE ASK WHEN WE GO UP AND MEET. AND SO THE LAST COMMUNICATION WE HAVE, WE'RE IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE IT'S BEEN AWARDED, BUT NO EXECUTED CONTRACT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE WORK. OKAY. SO I GUESS NEXT, WHAT IS A GOOD ANSWER THAT WE CAN TELL THE NORCOM ALUMNI RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THE TAILGATE. COOL. YOU SEE ME, THEY CAN HAVE IT IN THE AREA OR NOT. I THINK WE CAN. I DON'T WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IF IT'S NOT. SO MY I GUESS MY QUESTION, IF IT'S NOTHING HAPPENING AT THAT TIME PERIOD, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR TAILGATE? NOT NECESSARILY. THE FOOTBALL GAMES, THEIR TAILGATE IN THE GRASS AREA? I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON I GUESS IT DEPENDS WHERE EVERYTHING IS. SO HERE'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I LISTEN AND I'M ASKING FOR ALL EVERY NORCOM GRADUATE, I GET IT, YOU KNOW, I GET IT.

BUT YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS WITH THAT IF THE CITY HASN'T SET THE TIME AND WE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? NOTHING IS HAPPENING. WE'RE GOING TO USE THE FIELDS. IT COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, HAD YOU NOT BEEN OUT THERE? YEAH, WE COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO USE THE FACILITIES. AND I DON'T WANT US TO BE IN THAT SITUATION.

SO WE DID THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE ANTICIPATING WORK. RIGHT? IT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN. RIGHT. SO I SAY AND WHAT WE PLAN BACK OUT. THEY'RE GOING TO RESCHEDULE THE GAMES. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT BLANK TO LET THEM DO WHAT THEY DO. RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO. YEAH. NOT NOT NECESSARILY GAMES. SO WE'RE CLOSE TO THE DATE YOU KNOW STILL NOTHING. THEY CAN USE THE OUTSIDE AREA. I DON'T SEE THE GAME SCHEDULE. SO SO YOU'RE SAYING DO DO A TAILGATE WITHOUT THE FOOTBALL GAME.

THAT'S SOMETHING. OH I'M JUST ASKING. NO I'M NOT. NO I'M NOT I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR I'M I'M I'M I'M ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE ALUMNI WOULD WANT TO HAVE THEIR TAILGATE ON THE FIELD. SO YOU KNOW. YEAH, A LOT OF THEM. SO KNOW WHAT, LET ME MIND MY BUSINESS AND LET ME SPEAK FOR THE PRESIDENTS AND MANNER IN THE FUTURE. SO YOU KNOW, GOOD GOOD JOB, GOOD JOB. BUT NO, NO, I GET CALLS EVERY OTHER WEEK. I DO YOU KNOW ABOUT OKLAHOMA COMING. SO CAN YOU SPEAK FOR MANNER? OKAY, OKAY. BUT I'M ABOUT TO WALK. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT WAS VERY EYE OPENING, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF THE DOCTOR COTTON. SO FOR THOSE SENIORS WHERE THAT INDUSTRY STANDARD WOULD BE TWO

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AND SO I DID WHAT I SAID I WAS GOING TO DO. I ASKED THE QUESTIONS. THERE IS NO SURPRISES HERE AT ALL. BUT WITHOUT THE BRACES SENT THAT LETTER HOME, I MADE SURE HE CONTACTED THE CITY OFFICIALS FIRST SO THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS COMING AND WHAT THE LETTER WOULD BE SAYING. THERE WAS NO SURPRISE THERE. I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO THINK THAT DOCTOR BRACELETS OUT ON HIS OWN. THEY'RE GOING TO SEND SOME LETTER HOME AND SAY, I KNOW. HE LET THEM KNOW FIRST. HE DID NOT RESPOND. HE SENT THE LETTER HOME. ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL EVER HAVE, PLEASE ASK ME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GETTING THE EMAILS AND I'M GETTING COPIES AND PASTES TO ME ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHAT WE DID NOT DO. MISS SHOEMAKER AND I, WE ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS FAITHFULLY EVERY MONTH, AND I WILL SAY THEY ARE GREAT MEETINGS. COUNCILMAN HUGO ESPECIALLY, HE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.

EVERY MEETING, EVERY MEETING, WHEN WE HAD DELAYS, HE WOULD ASK, WHY ARE THESE DELAYS HAPPENING? WHY ARE THEY NOT CONTROLLING THEIR OWN CITY? HE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION OF GETTING AN MOU DRAWN SO WE CAN CONTROL OUR CITY AGAIN. WE HAD GREAT MEETINGS, SO DON'T LET IT BE SAID THAT WE DID NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS OR WE SPRUNG THIS LAST MINUTE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN REFERENCE TO THIS SUBJECT MATTER? ALL RIGHT.

IF ALL HEARTS AND MINDS ARE CLEAR, IS MEETINGS NOW. I'M SORRY. CLOSED SESSION. OH. OH, I'M SORRY. WE'RE CLOSED. WE HAVE A CLOSED A CLOSED MEETING ITEM. AT THE BOTTOM. I'M GOING TO ASK IF OUR VICE CHAIR COULD LEAD US INTO CLOSED MEETING AT THIS TIME. YEAH. I MOVE THAT

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MISS SESSOMS. YES. MISS SHUMATE. YES. DOCTOR WALKER.

IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED MEETING. WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED DURING THE PROCEEDINGS. CLOSED MEETING SECOND. PRETTY COOL. SECOND BY MISS BLOOM. TIME IS 826. HAVING A DISCUSSION? KNOW EVERYBODY AGREE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.